Me Quad.

[Phil Woollard]

So what colour/what unit?
I have to start thinking of the colour scheme as top coat is not that far away now. I rather like the idea of a Quad Battery in France during the invasion to retake Europe, so what colour/what unit?
I am also drawn to a desert yellow applied in the North African campaign fighting against Rommel's Army.
Also a bronze green for parade in dear old Blighty all bulled up (no weathering).

Any input would be gratefully received, cheers Phil.

[Stephen White]

How about Greece 1941, Caunter scheme? Mike Starmer has a lot of research on colours and patterns in his booklets.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/th ... iew+Thread

Pattern:

Mind you, your last choice has a certain ring about it (Gunners and B******t go hand in hand - any Long Range Snipers watching?)

Stephen

[Dave Backway]

Good evening Phil,

I'm watching with interest and I have been researching colour schemes also, and I'm currently detailing this as the Caunter scheme, however it is very difficult to find good reference material.

Regards

Dave

[Stephen White]

Mike Starmer - The Caunter Scheme:

http://matadormodels.co.uk/tank_museum/ ... tarmer.htm

Stephen

[Phil Woollard]

Thanks for the replies guy's but Im not convinced that this type of camo scheme works in 1/6th, I prefer a more simple single or possibly a two tone scheme with different shade of the same to add depth and interest, I may be wrong! Please keep the ideas and info coming it's all very interesting, things evolve all the time as the build goes on and more research is done ( i love the research aspect and spend many hours doing so).

You may be interested in my latest addition to the Quad, it's a working gear stick, at present manually selecting the stick to provide drive or neutral, this allows the operator to rev the engine (remember I have installed a turning dummy engine) whilst the vehicle is stationary, I may also connect the gear stick to a servo.....more to come tomorrow regards Phil.

[Phil Woollard]

Interior detail is coming on a pace.

[Jeffrey Goff]

Hi Phil, love the details and quality of the build, now that’s my kind of modelling
Regards Jeff

[Phil Woollard]

Cheers Jeff, I am trying to juggle house building and model building at present, in the mornings I'm using a drill/driver to screw in 100 mm fixings then in the afternoon I'm using the same driver to drill 1.5 mm holes in the quad, I know which one I prefer!
It's a very intense and fiddley job working on the Armortek quad, there's not much room and so much to add ironically the full size being rather spartan to say the least.
It's very different from my usual tracked vehicle bread and butter work but a pleasant change all the same, I am so glad the guys decided to release the quad, limber and 25 pounder. Now a nice Scammell or Matador either vehicle pulling a dirty great howitzer would be awesome ......Phil.

[Dave Dibb (Armorpax)]

Brilliant!

Cheers

Dave

[Phil Woollard]

Thanks Dave, praise indeed from the master, you alone understand the effort involved . I love your detailed parts and hate them at the same time,I want more! I am making the parts I don't have and learning loads too, my Stanley knife and plasticard selection is growing. Regards Phil.

[Phil Woollard]

One of my favourite photos of a Quad in occupied France. The colour scheme is (although I can't be sure as the photo is black and white) two tone and probably the American khaki and black. The American Khaki was in plentiful supply and used extensively on British vehicles especially in the late War years. I do prefer this to any thing else I have seen so far although I also like the desert colours ....Phil.

[Stephen White]

One of my favourite photos of a Quad in occupied France

Ah, the British occupation of France, getting our own back for the Normans?

Phil, photo is by Second Lieutenant W H J Sale, 3rd County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters) and taken in 1939/40. The location could be France but it looks more like an idyllic rural English scene. No matter, the colours you're after are:

Base colour - Khaki Green G3
Disruptive colour - Dark Green G4, until May 1940 when replaced by Nobel's Dark Tarmac No 4

Vehicles were disruptively painted before embarkation to France. The colours are much darker than they appear in the photo. Mike Starmer has some paint mixes for these colours.

Hope that's of help.

Stephen

[Phil Woollard]

It must be France as the sun is shining lol, yes those paint codes are just what I was looking for, I have 500 mls of deep bronze green that I may experiment with. Cheers Phil.

[Stephen White]

Good luck Phil. Hope it goes well on such a fine model. Just a comment on Deep Bronze Green (it has a fairly tortuous history). Deep Bronze Green No 24 was used pre-War. Khaki Green No 3 was a new colour introduced in Feb 1939 as one of a range of "Service Colours" (I believe DBG was a type of Brunswick Green widely available and not made to a military spec). So Khaki Green isn't DBG (the pre-War variety). It was produced to a military spec and is reported to have had anti-mustard gas properties. DBG and Khaki Green were produced to different British Standards. Cut then to post war and a gloss DBG appears, which is a dark tone. I don't know if it has any relationship with the pre-War colour. I suspect not because it seems unlikely that the post-War DBG wasn't produced to a military spec.

I gather the builder of this model used Mike Starmer's mixes for Khaki Green No 3 and Dark Tarmac No 4.

Whether any of this matters in one sixth scale in the eye of the beholder.

For anyone doing a Caunter, this photo was taken in Green 1941.

Regards

Stephen

[Phil Woollard]

If you look closely at the roof behind that hay rick.....those are pan tiles if i'm not mistaken! A very European roofing material? ....Detective Phil

Another interesting photo below, what a rig! There' a lot going on behind that truck.