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To much smoke

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Phil Woollard
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As I said, the Maybach had problems and smoked accordingly , so it's the old Tigers and panthers that I'm concentrating on for now, putting aside terminal engine smoking (which could be implemented in war gaming with a similar unit to the Tamiya battle system but using Armortek tanks, thats a good subject for another day) i feel we need to reproduce all be it a theatrical highly visible smoke effect which needs to be exaggerated, or you might not see it in differing weather conditions or in VT work.
I suppose the more control we have over the system the better, that could be programable, or I would prefer linked to our existing systems and so keep it simple :D ...Phil
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Just as well you are not modelling the T34, the full sized ones I have seen make their own black smoke screen!

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I agree, the smoke should replicate the engine and vehicle as it was then.
I cannot speak for the Maybach, but can for the more modern british armoured vehicles.

On one exercise, the squadron of tanks I was attached to were in a blocking position. 33A ( CVR(T) Spartan ) 14B ( CVR(T) Samaritan ) and us on 24C ( CRARRV )were tasked as enemy and to probe the line. When spotted, withdraw to the start line and then have another go.

3 hours into that phase of the exercise and we were asked over the radio if we had been tasked for a recovery job elsewhere. 33A & 14B had been spotted multiple times and sent back, we hadn´t.

I confirmed we were still in the exercise and had not been tasked elsewhere. I was then asked to send the grid co-ordinates of where I thought I was as I must be lost. After sending that info, I was told over the radio that I must be well & truly lost as 0D ( the tank of the Sqn Second in Command ) was at that location.
My answer was that we were parked up 30 meters behind him and had been there for the last hour. We had taken a tank sized tracked recovery vehicle through a 100 meter gap between tanks that were on the look-out for us. We could not have done that if we were belching out exhaust smoke.

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Now if you were in a Chieftain Mark you would have been spotted long ago, I would very much like Armortek to produce a Chieftain and a Chally for that matter, that crappy BL horizontally apposed multi fuel two stroke gave the vehicles position away what ever fuel it was burning. Now I could make a smoker for that lump! :D
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Hi Phil,
What was the saying ? Chieftain, the best battle tank in the world as long as it broke down in a good fire position. :lol:
Chally 1 & 2, completly different beasts.

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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: try putting new rings on the piston,s !!!! Denny.

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Thank you for that Denny :D :D "Piston broke" that's me :oops: Looks like you had a good time with the USAF, love those pics regards Phil.
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I still have a soft spot for the Chieftain Mark :D
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Smoke, what smoke.

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Phil Woollard wrote:"Piston broke" that's me :oops:
:D Others here may not understand and appreciate it but I do. Spent many a time there and also in the "Toucan Rule" whilst deployed.

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We are all losing it now :D :D :D
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John Heath wrote:Smoke, what smoke.

John

Bags of smoke on start up to be expected in those temperatures.



Very little smoke until engine loaded.

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The new prototype blower , its a bit tidier than the first unit, I hope to be able to offer the smokers for sale if theres enough interest, although its not like a production run so dont want or need to sell many. It would be nice to perfect the system and see it out there doing its job.
I have ordered the elements and metal enclosures from the net, so as soon as they arrive off I go.
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Its not small but it does fit against the rear plate quite nicely
Its not small but it does fit against the rear plate quite nicely
To get the volume of air from a fan it has to be powerful,that 80mm opening will be forced into a smaller port and into the smoker box and I suppose increase in pressure as it does so, I think I will need to increase the diameter of the outlet a tad, now when Adrian had a go at this all the fluid was blown out the exhaust but I have not had that problem, maybe because I keep the level of fluid low along with a baffle plate.
To get the volume of air from a fan it has to be powerful,that 80mm opening will be forced into a smaller port and into the smoker box and I suppose increase in pressure as it does so, I think I will need to increase the diameter of the outlet a tad, now when Adrian had a go at this all the fluid was blown out the exhaust but I have not had that problem, maybe because I keep the level of fluid low along with a baffle plate.
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