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Turret hoops for camo on Panther

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:09 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Guys
Those that have done this what diameter wire and what radius
are the hoops on the side of the turret to hold camo.
I know there are normaly 5 per side of the turret.

Any ideas

Thanks

Derek

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:10 pm
by leesellars
Hello Derek

Hope you are well. Ive used 2mm wire and a 3mm radius.4 on the side and 1 around the corner at the same hieght as the bottom hoops.They were used for folage and as far as i know fitted for the normandy hedge rows.

Lee

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:19 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Lee
I am fine thanks back at work now.
Thanks for the info.
Any news on the transfers?

Derek

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:18 pm
by Antony Rowley
Hi, got my wire ordered. Below is a photo (found on the web) of the camo hooks with wire or string in to help with holding the foliage. Is this correct :?: as it looks quite neat and finishes it off :lol: .

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Thanks Antony

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:20 pm
by Kent Wiik
Hi,

If possible, always look at the real thing:
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They were introduced as standard applied from factory in November 1944 so they were a bit to late for the Normandy foliage :wink:

Hope this was of any use.
Kent

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:28 pm
by Antony Rowley
Hi Kent,

If the hoops were factory applied then they would have to be removed to fit the spare track hangars seen on quite a few late Panther G's.
Have you any original photo's of the wire between the hoops or is this just fictional :?: Can't see any wire on the photo below even though there is foliage attached to the turret.

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Thanks Antony

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:45 am
by Tim Bowman
Antony,

I was glad to see you got your idlers working OK.

From what I've read and seen(I'm no expert disclaimer), the hoops were a very late war addition and were done at the factory. By then, they were putting foliage on them before they left the factory! Allied air supremacy and all.

I like the looks of the cable/rope through the hoops. My feeling is that the photos we see theses days represent a small sampling of what was on the battlefield 63 years ago. Who's to say there were no field mods done earlier. I would guess they did anything they could to turn their tanks into rolling bushes that go boom.

I plan on having track links on my turret plus foliage.

Boy that Panther in your photo has a familiar camo job
:)

Regards
Tim