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Turret hoops for camo on Panther
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:09 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Guys
Those that have done this what diameter wire and what radius
are the hoops on the side of the turret to hold camo.
I know there are normaly 5 per side of the turret.
Any ideas
Thanks
Derek
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:10 pm
by leesellars
Hello Derek
Hope you are well. Ive used 2mm wire and a 3mm radius.4 on the side and 1 around the corner at the same hieght as the bottom hoops.They were used for folage and as far as i know fitted for the normandy hedge rows.
Lee
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:19 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Lee
I am fine thanks back at work now.
Thanks for the info.
Any news on the transfers?
Derek
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:18 pm
by Antony Rowley
Hi, got my wire ordered. Below is a photo (found on the web) of the camo hooks with wire or string in to help with holding the foliage. Is this correct

as it looks quite neat and finishes it off

.
Thanks Antony
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:20 pm
by Kent Wiik
Hi,
If possible, always look at the real thing:

They were introduced as standard applied from factory in November 1944 so they were a bit to late for the Normandy foliage
Hope this was of any use.
Kent
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:28 pm
by Antony Rowley
Hi Kent,
If the hoops were factory applied then they would have to be removed to fit the spare track hangars seen on quite a few late Panther G's.
Have you any original photo's of the wire between the hoops or is this just fictional

Can't see any wire on the photo below even though there is foliage attached to the turret.
Thanks Antony
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:45 am
by Tim Bowman
Antony,
I was glad to see you got your idlers working OK.
From what I've read and seen(I'm no expert disclaimer), the hoops were a very late war addition and were done at the factory. By then, they were putting foliage on them before they left the factory! Allied air supremacy and all.
I like the looks of the cable/rope through the hoops. My feeling is that the photos we see theses days represent a small sampling of what was on the battlefield 63 years ago. Who's to say there were no field mods done earlier. I would guess they did anything they could to turn their tanks into rolling bushes that go boom.
I plan on having track links on my turret plus foliage.
Boy that Panther in your photo has a familiar camo job
Regards
Tim