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Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:27 pm
by Tim Biersma
Hello everyone.

My first post so a small introduction. My name is Tim, I'm 25 years old and I'm willing to argue with everyone that says "British tanks aren't the best tanks in the world" Because they are the best Image
So how did I get to loving British tanks, well I did my final apprenticeship for school at BAIV and I'm one of the four people that restored Celerity. So that might explain lot.

So now to the tank part.
About a month ago I picked up Mark ford's comet, together with a bit off baily stuff.
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And after enjoying a few days in the UK and the tank museum, I had to decide what to do with it.
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And since someone way more skilled than me is building Celerity, I decided to go for Why worry.
So far I have found 2 pictures off the comet that I believe is Why worry.

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Not having much more to go from leafs me a bit of artistic freedom, and a lot off questions.

So what have I done so far.
Well I like my tanks to show a bit more track so out came the tin snips.

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And off went the side plates.
They should be separate plates anyway.

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Did the same for the back.

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And also made the plates that should go over them.
I'll probably re-cut these when I have a better tool for it.

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Also love how my laptop fits on the back.

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Lucky for me there were only two that needed some new glue

It's all back together for now, but I have a short list of things I want to fix on it.
-normandy call's
-engine deck
-air intake
-recoil
-the volume off smoke
-rear plate under the normandy call's
-hinges on the stowage boxes
-frond plate
-tow-cable
-lights
-position spot light
-turning periscopes (I love moving parts)
-and much more.

Also If anyone has a dust cover for over the mantlet please let me know because my sowing skills are not really capable off making one that looks decent.
Wile doing all off this I noticed that some off the rubbers were coming off the wheels and the tracks were a bit to tight for my liking and on backwards.




Well that's all for now.

Greetings Tim

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:03 pm
by Stephen White
Tim, you and your team did a superb job with the BAIV "Celerity" so you'll no doubt work wonders with Mark Ford's Comet.

"Why Worry" is a great choice. I'll see if I can find any more photos but the two you've found are the most well known. I can add some detail about the tank. It served with 3rd Troop, B Squadron, 2nd Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, in 29th Armoured Brigade, 11 Armoured Division. The other tanks in the Troop were probably named "Why Hurray" and "Why Not". Why Worry carried the Army Census Number T335346, which would have been painted on the toe plate of the front hull and on the rear (3 1/2inch white letters on a black background).

This photo shows Why Not. On the rear of the turret bustle, the callsign is painted ("3?"), the second letter/digit looks as though it's C. The tac sign for B Sqn was a 12inch square in red but if it were painted on, it's obscured by the camouflage net. The census number can just be seen on the toe plate.
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This photo shows a Fife and Forfar Yeomanry tank at Petershagen on 7th Apr, 1945. It carries the Raging Bull Divisional sign and the regimental indicator 53.

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On the IWM picture you posted, you can see the Census number, Unit Identifier and Divisional Sign on the toe plate. The Unit Identifier in the Fife and Forfars looks as though it was crudely hand painted.

Good luck and keep posting, it's always good to see Allied tanks making an appearance to balance all the Wehrmacht stuff.


Best regards

Stephen

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:11 pm
by Tim Biersma
Thank you very much for the extra info, remembering units and things like it are not my strong point.

Interesting to see that "why worry" has the late type idler and "why not" the earlier type.
Also having trouble making out if it is fitted with normandie call's. It wouldn't be fitted with the fish tails yet.

Would the "3C" on the back of "why not"mean that "why worry"would have the same?

Thank you very much again.

Greetings Tim

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:19 pm
by Stephen White
Tim Biersma wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:11 pm
Would the "3C" on the back of "why not"mean that "why worry"would have the same?
No Tim, each tank in the Troop would have a different callsign. I don't know from my records which applied to Why Worry. The possibilities are:

3 - Troop Leader
3A - Troop Sergeant
3B - Troop Corporal

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:14 pm
by Steve Stuart
Great to see a Comet on the move, congratulations!
Steve

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:22 pm
by Steve Stuart
Rereading the post, I have a pattern for the dust cover. However I will need to look it out for you. It will either be the original or I may find it as file attachment in an email. Steve

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:38 pm
by Tim Biersma
Steve Stuart wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:22 pm
Rereading the post, I have a pattern for the dust cover. However I will need to look it out for you. It will either be the original or I may find it as file attachment in an email. Steve
That would be great, I have used the dimensions given by phil fitzpatrick, but I haven't managed to replicate his results.

Greetings Tim

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:46 pm
by Tim Biersma
Hello everyone.

Since I had a bit of spare time, I thought it would be fun to make some ammo for the comet.
So I found the 1/10 scale picture in my comet book.
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And after a bit of time I had all the shell types in 3D.
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After a bit of trying they came out the printer like this.

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They will need a lot of work but for now they will do.
I might get a resin printer to make some better prints for the tank.

Also if anyone happens to know what the official ammo load is for the comet, please let me know.
Because I might just make a full set.

Greetings Tim Biersma

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:17 am
by Tim Biersma
Hello everyone I think it's time for an other update.

I didn't really like the look off the hull besa mount and when I checked it the dimensions were also off a bit. So I made my own.
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The armortek

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My own.
I did the same for the drivers hatch.
Sadly I forgot to take pictures of it.
But it's always a bit off a puzzle to make the part with the correct look fit the armortek model.

Next on the list was so British that it's only beaten by painting the union Jack on the full tank.
The camo netting.
I started with a standard helmet net that had lost most off its elasticity and for the burlap straps I used some fabric I got from grandma's sowing supplies.
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Cut the net in the shape I needed and nailed it to a board to keep it in place.

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First bit done and test fitted.

Many many hours later.
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I'm quite appy with the result for now. Might ad a bot more fabric and try to iron it to get them all to comply to the rules off gravity.

That's all for now.

Greetings tim biersma

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:57 pm
by mark lawson
Hi Tim, there are a nice range of 17pdr rounds available from Armorpax https://www.armorpax.net/copy-of-kompact-kit-updates

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:57 pm
by mark lawson
Hi Tim, there are a nice range of 17pdr rounds available from Armorpax https://www.armorpax.net/copy-of-kompact-kit-updates

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:49 pm
by Tim Page
Hi Mark and Tim, The ammo used for the 17pdr was not interchangeable with the 77mm HV gun in the Comet.
The rounds were the same caliber but i believe that the shell casings for the Comet were a bit smaller.

Cheers
Tim

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:22 pm
by Tim Biersma
Hi tim

Yes the projectiles are interchangeable but the casing is from a ww1 AA gun if I remember correctly.
Also it wasn't an actual 77mm.
They named it 77mm to avoid mixing it up with the 17 pounder, 76mm, 3 inch and 75mm ammo.

Greetings tim biersma

Re: Comet No.33 T335346 "Why worry"

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:38 pm
by Mark Heaps
Tim Biersma wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:27 pm
Wile doing all off this I noticed that some off the rubbers were coming off the wheels and the tracks were a bit to tight for my liking and on backwards.
Easy mistake.
Late 87 or early 88 in a singlies block York barracks Münster. We had only recently got Challenger 1 replacing Chieftain.
A Cpl ( qualified as Driver Mech ) got one of the first Tamiya 1/35 kits and when built, brought it out into the corridor for appraise & applaud.
First comment was from a newly arrived REME craftsman vehicle mechanic, "The tracks are on backwards"

Mark