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Phil Woollard
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New build Tiger 1

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The new build Tiger 1.
Build progress, Armortek chassis number 51 but no certificate as built from the last Tiger 131 batch with added NOS
I had one of the first from Mark and this one may be one of his last :cry: , before the new beginning :D of course.
The fit of the parts is sooo good now, it just falls together.
I want this build to be one of the best I have ever done, a fitting tribute to the Mark and Gill.
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Photos all in the wrong order as usual.Checking for initial alignment before final tightening.
Photos all in the wrong order as usual.Checking for initial alignment before final tightening.
Love the fit cant resist getting a sprocket on.
Love the fit cant resist getting a sprocket on.
The final drive casting assembly is a work of art and is by far my favourite area but will seldom ever be seen.I am adding texture to the undercoat even at this early stage and to the parts that may never be seen again.
The final drive casting assembly is a work of art and is by far my favourite area but will seldom ever be seen.I am adding texture to the undercoat even at this early stage and to the parts that may never be seen again.
A whole tube of quality grease is packed in each side.
A whole tube of quality grease is packed in each side.
I like to use the grease as the gasket also.
I like to use the grease as the gasket also.
Even the motor adaptor is sealed to prevent dust/debris ingress.
Even the motor adaptor is sealed to prevent dust/debris ingress.
Im using the nos brass suspension blocks so that I can experiment with the torsion bars in different positions to give the chassis more realistic lurch and dip.I may fit the new suspension bars later.
Im using the nos brass suspension blocks so that I can experiment with the torsion bars in different positions to give the chassis more realistic lurch and dip.I may fit the new suspension bars later.
Chassis number 51 but no certificate as using nos as well as new parts.Each bearing has an O ring and some grease.
Chassis number 51 but no certificate as using nos as well as new parts.Each bearing has an O ring and some grease.
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Hi Phil

Looking good so far, look forward to future posts.

From today I am the proud owner of Tiger 131 No19. Thanks to Olaf to whom I'm eternaly greatfull.
Looking fordward to working on this as much as I was prior to working on the real thing last November. I was privileged enough to assist the team at Bovington Tank Museum take the engine out for its first major overhaul in six years.

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You lucky bugger Steve a privilege indeed, when I was a kid my father was posted to Bovington to look after the collection, he said that I played in the tanks including 131 but I cant remember a thing!
Wether this example of mine ends up anything like 131...who knows but I will do my best to represent this iconic old lady.
What are yours plans Steve? Regards Phil.
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Progress and some tippy techniques.
Please note these are my methods and are not required to build your Tiger from the box.
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I Counter-bore the m3 hex from the inside of the hull using a 5.5mm drill bit, you can then gently tap them home , this holds the hex head tight, provides a flush finish inside which can be filled if you wish.
I Counter-bore the m3 hex from the inside of the hull using a 5.5mm drill bit, you can then gently tap them home , this holds the hex head tight, provides a flush finish inside which can be filled if you wish.
Calculate the length for each hex bolt for the external fitting before you apply milliput weld beads to the bolt/plate interface.If they end up to long simply file to length. Always test fit those external pieces.
Calculate the length for each hex bolt for the external fitting before you apply milliput weld beads to the bolt/plate interface.If they end up to long simply file to length. Always test fit those external pieces.
Better to long than to short. A nice "nut" finish.
Better to long than to short. A nice "nut" finish.
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I find the press studs absolutely fine for what I do, they look good and are easy to install once you have the technique, here Im using the brass filler fitting from an old smoker to press/hammer on the nut.
I find the press studs absolutely fine for what I do, they look good and are easy to install once you have the technique, here Im using the brass filler fitting from an old smoker to press/hammer on the nut.
A rolling chassis at last.If you insert the last track pin from the wrong side its easily found and removed for the build.
A rolling chassis at last.If you insert the last track pin from the wrong side its easily found and removed for the build.
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A little more progress on my not so good build thread but may be of interest to some :)
Its a bit cold in the machine shop at the moment, standing there on the concrete for hours.
I would like to add the double wheel outer rim fixing bolts, would anybody have the details of the positions regards Phil.
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I want to improve the look of the wheel axle arrangement.
I want to improve the look of the wheel axle arrangement.
So turning the bobbins down and making more realistic hubs.That old lathe was manufactured in the early 1940's so is about the same age as Tiger 131!
So turning the bobbins down and making more realistic hubs.That old lathe was manufactured in the early 1940's so is about the same age as Tiger 131!
Well its a start, and a long way off Liams master piece.
Well its a start, and a long way off Liams master piece.
As she will feature in many dioramas I want a fair bit of detail included in the running gear.
As she will feature in many dioramas I want a fair bit of detail included in the running gear.
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Hi
Cold concrete floor in workshop. Put down some slatted wooden duckboards.
Graham
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Thank you for that Graham, I have to build an "Ark" first with any spare wood as it wont stop raining :D regards Phil.
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This stuff is great and it also makes it easier to find that bit that escaped.

http://www.floormats.co.uk/thick-rubber-sheets

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Thank you Stephen, it a good price too, since I hit 50 the old legs suffer a bit :oops: regards Phil.
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Cold! Southern softies, I was down Bristol earlier this week and I was out in my t-shirt, it was like summer. you want to be up north to feel the real cold :lol: :lol: Winter is coming!!

Nice build Phil, I'm watching with interest, just cant always post.

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Phil Woollard wrote: since I hit 50 the old legs suffer a bit
50? Crikey wait til you get to my age :roll:
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I put a layer of these down on the bare concrete floor.
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It's amazing the difference it makes when just standing around, plus kneeling is now no longer a pain :roll:

As they're individual, if you tear one or accidentally paint one :oops: they're easy to replace.

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So who got the static Tiger that was recently for sale because it wasn't me? :cry:
I really could have done with those original sprockets, if the new owner would like to sell them to me please PM regards Phil
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Hi Phil,

These are the measurements that I have taken from tiger 131, I hope they are of help to you.

The outer most wheels had 32mm nuts holding the wheels on.

The first set of double wheels had 22mm bolt heads holding the wheels on.

The next set of double wheels with the track horn guide flange had 22mm bolt heads. These bolts were in six groups of three, the centre of the bolts was about 68mm from the outside edge of the flange and about 77mm between each bolt.

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Thank you very much David for info, and can I say that your build looks fantastic its going to look so real, keep up the good work and keep posting. Ooo the m3 hex bolts that we like to use so much...how far out are they in regards to the 1/1 and should there be nuts on the wheel centres and bolt heads on the rims,also did the bolts go right through the rim with a nut on the back?
It would be so convenient to able to buy a bolt with a false nut showing rather than making our own from studs.
Regards Phil.
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