tiger barrel

[Dale jordan]

This is how I fixed my barrel into my tiger . I was just going to glue it in . Then I came up with this idea I turned up a peace of alloy made some brackets added some springs . I can later add a counter lever so as to make it recoil with a servo if i wish . Dale

[Joe Boylan]

Hi Dale
What a clever and simple approach to to attaching the barrel.

I have been working on a blow-back gas operated barrel configuration for recoil on my Early Tiger. Working with a few Engineers here at work. We were hoping to come with something this summer but this blow-back has turned out to be more complicated than we ever thought.

I think we are taking the harder approach to this - a fast servo on your system could do the trick??? Keep us informed

Very Interesting
JOE

[Martin Cohen]

I have wondered how a recoil mechanism could be made to work and appear authentic - recoiling almost instantaneously and running out at a slower rate. The shifting mass of the mechanism inside might even cause the Tiger to lurch a little adding to the effect - though I have not seen enough film of Tigers shooting to know if the tank rocked at all. And if this were made to work with the Armortek mechanism then that would be terrific.

The matter of recoil seems to be among the few notable detailing items remaining to be addressed on the Tiger. I expect that at some cost this should be doable.

Good luck with this, and please keep us informed.

[Dale jordan]

This is how the master does it...!!! Check out Vinces blank firer and the workmanship in his recoiling arm and servo.


http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/galler ... 5984_PkPib

[David Gray]

Hi dale thats a good idea much better than glueing the barrel

love your cammo scheme and weathering , looks ace

Dave

[Martin Cohen]

Is it possible to program a servo controller so that the recoil happens quickly - almost instantaneously, while having the run out go somewhat slower?

How can a servo system large enough to work reliably be accommodated within the turret given the weight and bulk of the Armortek Firing mechanism?

And of course how can the recoil happen convincingly when the Armortek mechanism itself takes up so much room? I wonder of having a two section barrel recoiling into itself might be part of the solution? I'd like to see Pete Fertl chime in on this aspect.

[Allan Richards]

I don't think Vince's system is a programmed recoil unit. If I recal its a big powerful servo that was worked off a slide switch on his Tx, so you could manually move it fast in recoil and slower in recovery. There are ways of doing a spring loaded mechanisms and servos to winfd the gun back forward and re-cock the mechanism but it quickly gets complicated and these barrels are quite heavy necessitating some stong springs and large servos or motors to make it work.

[Adrian Harris]

Not to mention the prohibition of mounting the blank firing unit on anything other than the turret casing...

Adrian.

[Allan Richards]

Martin,

There is a way of programming a servo to give a realistic recoil using a control board from Milford Instruments http://www.milinst.com. hese are the people who supplied the control boards for the animatronic figures. One just needs to use a radio channel or UHF Tx to trigger the board.

As has been said the blank firing unit does take up most of the turret space and to make a recoil on top of this is not going to be easy.

[Lionel Champ]

Sorry to change the subject slightly, but in "Modelling the Tiger 1" by Osprey publishing,there is an article that shows 6 recessed grub screws on the gun sleeve. They are in three pairs at 120*to each other on the thick part of the sleeve. The Tiger is an early production and these screws are see on other models within the book. Iv'e not noticed these on any Tiger in the gallery ,so was wondering if I need to add them to my late Tiger?
Lionel