I wanted to share something I've been working on for another project that may be applicable to the recoil with effects question. I'm only putting it here to maybe give someone some ideas or inspiration to develop something for those who have the new recoil system but would still like some bang.
DISCLAIMER: I've been reloading ammo for years and have owned several black powder pistols and understand the hazards that go along with it. I am not suggesting this is the perfect solution nor the only solution but maybe one system that could easily be made to work in a 1:6th, metal model that has the recoil.
These were some RN gun patterns I did in 1:24th scale with the intent on making the guns work. I have tested them many times and know others who have working guns on RC ships with much success.
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Here's a test firing secuence
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A fellow builder came up with a very clean way to do electronically ignited, reload-able barrel inserts. It is this that I think would be easily adaptable to Armortek models and allow recoil WITH effects.
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The scale and length of the parts would be different for the tanks but same concept.
Hope this is helpful to some. I know it's not feasible in a lot of areas but it is quite impressive when they fire.
regards
Tim
ps...Mark and Gil if you feel this is inappropriate for the forum I understand and feel free to delete.