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Kill rings - black or white?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:19 pm
by Stewart Ashton
I thought there was something missing
Having looked at dark camo guns they all have white barrel rings
painted on and then I found a sand coloured gun with black ones.
It makes sense but is it correct?
Regards Stewart
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:38 pm
by Stewart Ashton
This photo shows the kill rings for vehicles and aircraft
Accurate or not it looks good. Three vehicles four aircraft.
Regards Stewart
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:08 pm
by Sven Strobbe
Stewart
I've taken this picture in 2007 in the museum of Saumur (France)
It should be the original colours...
Greetings
Sven
Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:20 pm
by Stewart Ashton
Hi Sven
Yes thats the three colour camo for the battle of the bulge era
and if you look at my 88 post you might well recognise the clipped number plate
catch 22?
Or is it?
I think that the individual commander would designate what colour
rings to paint the kill rings assuming he cared or could even get hold
of any paint?
Food for thought or utter carp?
Regards Stewart
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:18 am
by Sven Strobbe
Stewart
Something i found in the book :
Die 8,8 Flak im Erdkampf-Einsatz
Janusz Piekalkiewicz
Maybe this can help you find the answer
White Markings
A lot of White Markings
You're second picture ? (Creil,city nord of Paris)
Last but not least Black and White markings ? ? ?
Nord-Afrika, Shortage of paint or is there a meaning...?
Havent red the book so far,its in German wich takes a bit more time to read...
Greetings from Belgium
Sven
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:40 am
by Stewart Ashton
Hi Sven,
It certainly looks as though white were applied to dark coloured
guns and black to sand ones.
Yes the second picture is the Creil gun;
http://www.primeportal.net/artillery/gu ... r/flak_36/
There are some wonderful photos here.
http://svsm.org/gallery/88mm-Flak-36
Regards Stewart
Ps thanks for the email.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:42 pm
by Sven Strobbe
Stewart
In the last picture they used both marking colors...
It sure is a beautifull peace of equipement the 88...
My hart bleeds nowing when i was to young there was still one standing in a field here in Belgium.Off course this day it is already long gone, if not it would be standing in my garden.
Pitty that Armortek has no more models and they're not gonna build them anymore...
If the pictures i sent could be of any help, i'm glad...
Regards
Sven
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:48 pm
by Stewart Ashton
Looks like it will remain a mystery Sven
You never know someone might come along and give us the correct
answer
Regards Stewart
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:30 pm
by Stewart Ashton
ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL the issue is as clear as mud now
Regards Stewart
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:04 pm
by Sven Strobbe
Stewart
Its a model not to be the real deal...
Try to find pictures from the real thing and make your model like that one.
That way you already now its accurate...
What it means will come later i hope...
Regards
Sven
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:00 pm
by Stewart Ashton
Fed up of looking Sven.
Ive done black ones
Regards Stewart
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:32 pm
by Sven Strobbe
Stewart
Are you sure
Just joking..
Maybe someday someone will give a good explanation and then you can redo it...
Enjoy your build...
Regards
Sven
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:41 pm
by Stewart Ashton
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:45 pm
by Sven Strobbe
Now you can start shooting them down
Regards
Sven
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:24 pm
by Tim Bowman
Hi Stewart
I've been enjoying the "kill ring" thread.
I don't think there was a "wrong" choice for you. Black or white. I'm sort of partial to the subdued look of the black ones though. Well done!
I think the armor/ship/plane silhouettes painted over the stripes is a cool look too. I haven't seen that before.
Kind regards
Tim