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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:15 pm
by Dale jordan
Very ,Very , Nice Simon . ' I like it ' ... Good idea doing it in stages . It gives you a feel of the finished job .. Simon are you air bushing with hobby paints?? .. Dale

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:39 pm
by Robert E Morey
Simon,
I really like the camo. The colors look great. If it was me, I would make the small spots airbrushed, with a stencil. But again thats me, your version looks excellent. I'd like to try an ambush scheme - but don't have a tank to put it on!

Keep going!
Bob

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:06 pm
by simon_manning
great thanks for the quick positive feedback so far, hi bob,did the germans use a stencil on the camo pattern,many thanks simon manning,any one with some good photos place them on here please.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:54 pm
by Tim Bowman
Hi Simon

Excellent! Like everyone else, it's nice to see an ambush camo paint scheme applied to one of these tanks. I wanted to do the Panther in one but then decided on Normandy time frame...ruled it out. :cry:

Stencils were used on several of the variations on this paint scheme and also, both brushed on (like yours) and dots applied with a brush.

Here's two pictures I found in a quick search. My only comment, and it's not meant as criticism, is to slightly increase the scale of your brush dabs. IMHO. Maybe I'm just used to seeing 1/35th scale models with larger ones.

Looks awesome as is! Hope these help.

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Best regards
Tim

King Tiger Build

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:29 am
by Jeff Hyder
Hi Simon,
I have been watching your build with great interest,superb work and great paint job with the airbrush.I have nearly finished the rear deck of my 1/8 KT and I will e-mail the photos to you soon.
All the best Jeff Hyder

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:39 am
by simon_manning
post them on here jeff.simon.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:57 pm
by Robert E Morey
Simon,
I would only use a stencil and airbrush to insure the spots are small enough scale wise -I am not that skilled to make a little tiny dot with the airbrush. They could of course be done by hand as well.

Whatever you choose to do I'm sure it will be excellent, and I for one anxiously await the result!

Great photos Tim! Panzertract No 5-3 shows a Panther G with the ambush pattern. Hard to tell but the spots may be airbrushed on this one??

Jeff H please post your 1/8 KT pix here! If your Tiger 1 is any indication the KT will be awesome.

Bob

King Tiger Build

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:13 pm
by Jeff Hyder
Hi Simon,
Sorry I have not got back to you, have been away.Thanks for the offer.I thought I had the rear deck licked but having problems with the mesh over the grills.Why is it that super glue only sticks you fingers together when you are in a hurry.
Anyway I will post the photos as soon as I can.
Bob thanks for the kind words.

All the best Jeff Hyder.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:12 pm
by Robert E Morey
Jeff,
I just made some mesh grilles for my Panther and used epoxy to hold the mesh. See the last page of my "Panther Progress" thread for some pix. May be of help to you? Kind regards,Bob

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:50 pm
by David Gray
supperb work Simon , well done it will look fantastic when its finished

David gray :D

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:57 pm
by simon_manning
hatch heaven!,jeff goff kindly made these for me,way beyond my capabilities, many thanks jeff,thanks per for sending me the photos of the hatch,regards simon manning.

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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:15 am
by Per Sonnervik
Hi Simon,

I think you done quite a good job so far with the painting but if you want an accurate ambush camo for your Tiger II, I´m sorry to say this, you´d better get your airbrush out again.

First step is to study the pattern of the camo as this pattern was applied in the factory with quite small variations. Here are some photos and illustrations (also look at the photos Tim posted above);


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Below are some illustrations from Trojca´s T2 book. Pattern quite accurate but not the colours.


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Here´s a photo of the front which shows the pattern quite well. This is the pattern you should follow. Also note the contrast between the redbrown and green (lighter colour). Photo from Henschel´s test driving outside the factory.


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Here´s a close up of the camo showing the dots were handpainted with a round brush (note the run of the paint on some dots). Again note the contrast between the redbrown and the green (ignore the comment "very blackish tone")

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Next step is to choose the colours. A Hungerian modelling friend, Gergö, has done quite good job copying the pattern and also the colours but as there are no colour photos of this camo you can´t be 100 % shure but it´s very close. Compare the colour photos with the black and white photos and you´ll see what I mean. His model is far from finished this is just the basic camo pattern.



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After you´ve done this the next step is to tone down the contrast between the colours i.e. weathering. Study the photos from the Tiger II´s passing through the town Tondorf during the Battle of the Bulge and you´ll understand how much these colours faded after a couple of weeks in the open.

Nice work on the hatch mechanisms by Jeff but the two long locking arms should pass through the two brass bits (fastened with two bolts to the hatch). Also the padding should be black.

Hope it´s of some help and I´m looking forward to the next round in the bar sponsored by Simon.

/Per

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:06 pm
by simon_manning
what a post,magnifico! i did'nt realise what a strange colour scheme this ambush was,what was the thinking behind it,and were the wheels camo as well,?great information and thanks for taking time,i do enjoy the painting most so i might give it a go,cheers per ,simon manning

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:06 pm
by simon_manning
this is the photo i've been working off,no doubt lots of you have seen this,painting the camo to look right is difficult, the shapes,colour,tones,scale,seem to be the main factors,i used all the kit supplied tow rope brackets but modified them,the tim catton shovel fitted which is a superb extra,hope the post is of some interest on these wet,wet, evenings, simon manning.


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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:53 pm
by Dale jordan
Thanks for sharing the photos Simon .. lots of rain over there !!! We have had heat waves out here last week . Simon the kit Brackets look better then I thought !! I'm glad... My ones are still in their bags . I'll dig them out and have a look .. I bet you can't wait to get the tracks on ..Dale