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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:01 am
by Vince Cutajar
I haven't read the text. Just had a look at the wiring diagrams. I am sure Armortek will be able to tell you how to do it.

I suspect you need three inputs to run the motors. Two inputs to tell the system which motor should be working and in which direction and another to adjust the RPM of both motors. That is at least my simplistic view. Would be interested in what Armortek advise.

Vince

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:26 am
by Armortek
We have already been in touch with Brian on this and hopefully he will update the thread with progress shortly, but just to make sure there is no misunderstanding :

1. In Brian's photograph, the receiver was connected to the wrong RC input on the Motion Control module. From the tiger 1 manual :
Input 1 – Controls Switched 1
Input 2 – Controls Switched 2
Input 3 – Controls Speed Control 3
Input 4 – Controls Speed Control 4
Output 5 – NOT USED

So the throttle channel on the receiver should be connected to RC input 3.

2. It looks like Brian is using a T-FHSS receiver. Our electronics don't seem to play nice with that receiver. As a 6 channel set up, we recommend either :
- Spektrum DX6 Transmitter and AR610 Receiver, or
- Futaba T6K Transmitter and R2006GS Receiver

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:33 am
by Adrian Harris
There are only two inputs needed for the motors, as both the speed and direction information is built into each signal.

The motors are correctly attached to Speed Control Outputs 3 and 4. So, to control them, you need to connect the receiver to RC Inputs 3 and 4.

To start with, I would set up the tank so that the each stick forwards and backwards moves the each motor forward and backwards. This is the easiest way to learn to drive one of these models.

Connect the RC Input 3 connection to each receiver output in turn until you can get the first motor to work using the left hand stick.

Then do the same for RC input 4, until you get the other motor to work using the right hand stick.

If you have a spare servo, these are very handy for checking receiver outputs and for fault finding.

One thing to check is the position of DIP switch 4 on the Motion Control Module. If the motor on Output 3 is always slower than the one on Output 4, then you need to change the position of the DIP switch, as this selects between a 5A output and a 60A output, which makes quite a difference for a tank ;-) The manual I have doesn't say which switch position matches which current output, so you will need check by trial and error.

Adrian.

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:17 am
by Stephen White
"Time spent in reconnaissance is seldom wasted" - an old military saying.

The Knowledge Base has relevant topics on the selection of radios, the setting up processes and on the selection of batteries. The KB topic on selection of radios cautions about issues with Futaba legacy FHSS waveforms.

Stephen

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:17 pm
by Brian Ostlind
Back to square one! The controller is set up different than a 1/16 tank which mixes the throttle and aileron for turning then?

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:27 pm
by Brian Ostlind
I think I can switch my transmitter to s-fhss if I get a different receiver (recomended by AT) and hopefully I’ll be ok.

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:28 pm
by Brian Ostlind
Thanks all for the support.

Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:50 pm
by Adrian Harris
> The controller is set up different than a 1/16 tank which mixes the throttle and aileron for turning then?

The controller doesn't do any mixing itself but it should be possible to do it on your transmitter.

Have a look in the Knowledgebase for Futaba elevon mixing - the instructions for the T7C should probably still be relevant for your T6K.

Adrian.

MOTION PACK BENCH TEST: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:41 pm
by Brian Ostlind
Success! I went to the local hobby shop looking for a new Futaba receiver and came home with a whole new radio. I got everything going with the Spektum radio in about two minutes. I’ll order the SFHSS Futaba receiver to see if I can get my T6 to work.

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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:39 pm
by Vince Cutajar
That is good news Brian.

Vince

FRONT TRACK HOLDER: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:04 am
by Brian Ostlind
Was this a common front track holder? I like the simplicity.

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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:54 am
by Kent Wiik
Hi Brian,

Common or common....as all Tiger1 units had their own way to make this field mod there is a large variety in looks.
However, this particular one was on 1SS/SS101 Tigers.

Interesting note is hove they often appear bent as seen in periodic photos.
This due to the fact a round bar don't take perpendicular weight that well.

Kind regards
Kent

LOWER HULL CLEAR COAT: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:16 am
by Brian Ostlind
I think this looks pretty good.

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FLAT CLEAR COAT : Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:45 am
by Brian Ostlind
After this thing rests for a day I can start some suspension work.

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SUSPENSION: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:54 pm
by Brian Ostlind
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