Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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I will send you the file via email.
I asked you to send me a pencil drawing with some numbers but what I got was a photo and diameter of 25mm and height of 50mm. As I am not a mind reader I made the 3d model resembling the photo. I am not going to disassemble or remake the model -- too much work.

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p.s. If anybody else wants to give it a try just send me your email via PM before I delete the model.

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Vince Cutajar wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:29 am
I am nearly 100% sure that this won't work with a filament printer.

Vince
Just as well Vince, it's not the correct flask. We had the ones below on Chieftain and although it's a long time ago, I believe we also had them when I was on Cents in Australia. They were originally for WW2 aircrew. It's reasonable to suppose these are the ones used on Cents in UK. One other point - they were easy to break and therefore we always left them in the troop cage in barracks and bought our own very much better ones from civilian sources. 'Twas ever thus.

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Well it turns out my crappy filament printer has done a superb job, shame it's not the correct one ? The guys on the Centurion appreciation society said that's the type that they remember. I had no dimensions to go by so just guessing from the long bin dimensions.
Your comment Mr White was not very tactful , it's still a great piece that Vince has drawn from just a photo and will not be wasted.
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Well I am quite impressed you managed to print it with an FDM printer.

This is Stephen's version which was much easier to do. Use a piece of wire for the handle.
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First thermos printed, painted and the wire handle bent up and fitted.
It's taken me probably 2 years to get the filament printer to work this well, there are so many contributing factors to get just right plus the custom mods to the stepping motors, the extruder must be perfectly set or the retraction will not be clean, the nozzles need customizing, the bed and the height of need constant adjustments as the nozzles wear, the filament must be of excellent quality, the software needs updating regularly and so on and so on.
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All of these prints had no support structure not even a brim, no clean up of the parts is necessary once it's all set up this way.
All of these prints had no support structure not even a brim, no clean up of the parts is necessary once it's all set up this way.
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I'm going to use this type along side the other for a bit of interest
I'm going to use this type along side the other for a bit of interest
I reduced the size of the flask in Cura to 75% of the original file and the detail is still very good, I will slightly enlarge the next flask to around 80% as that will fit the stowage container more snuggly.<br />Great work Vince!
I reduced the size of the flask in Cura to 75% of the original file and the detail is still very good, I will slightly enlarge the next flask to around 80% as that will fit the stowage container more snuggly.
Great work Vince!
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All we need now is 1/6th scale beef stew! 8)

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Just turning today, so nothing very exciting I'm afraid.
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Facing the main searchlight body
Facing the main searchlight body
You can't use a boring bar without first making a hole big enough for the tool
You can't use a boring bar without first making a hole big enough for the tool
So start with a small drill bit and work your way up but not so big the running centre won't fit
So start with a small drill bit and work your way up but not so big the running centre won't fit
Boring almost all the way through
Boring almost all the way through
I need to reduce the OD but leave the rear angle profile for now.
I need to reduce the OD but leave the rear angle profile for now.
When the swarf tangles around the chuck it does polish everything
When the swarf tangles around the chuck it does polish everything
That's just the swarf from turning the 100mm stock down a few mm  close to the finished outside diameter
That's just the swarf from turning the 100mm stock down a few mm close to the finished outside diameter
Starting the boring boring process
Starting the boring boring process
The end piece fits nicely on to the main searchlight body
The end piece fits nicely on to the main searchlight body
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This really is the thread that keeps on giving. Can’t wait to see how your searchlight turns out compared to the 3d printed versions.
You know you can buy wire wool rather than make your own? :D

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Nothing done except a couple of cans printed from another era but may have still been around in the seventies?
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Printed in normal format with no support, even that horizontal handle printed just fine , no how the hell did it manage that?
Printed in normal format with no support, even that horizontal handle printed just fine , no how the hell did it manage that?
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These can live in one of the stowage bins somewhere
These can live in one of the stowage bins somewhere
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Fantastic work there Phil, the mind boggles at the detail stuff your pouring into the model.
All I could think about while looking at the machining of the search light housing though, "Beer Keg", that what happens when you live near a brewing town.
Time for swift one.
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It is such a great pleasure to watch.
How about some dents for the petrol cans?
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I agree Oliver those cans need some character, the donor flashlight arrived Mr Dawe, it's a bit posh! It even has a glass lens!
Reference the Morris engine file I found, although had potential has not printed well, this is maybe down to budget cad software issues, this and scaling up from a tiny model but some parts may with a little filler round out and be useful.
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Your going to have to be very careful with the fragile detail around the turret if you have to remove it!
Your going to have to be very careful with the fragile detail around the turret if you have to remove it!
It's probably best to disconnect the smoke discharger conduits and lift out the roof section.
It's probably best to disconnect the smoke discharger conduits and lift out the roof section.
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Removing the core ready for the reflector
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Our donor lamp
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Initial id is now fine, that's the reflector in arse backwards
Initial id is now fine, that's the reflector in arse backwards
All the middle must now be removed
All the middle must now be removed
It's getting very deep and it's hard to see when the tool is going to bottom out
It's getting very deep and it's hard to see when the tool is going to bottom out
Bugger, I must pay more attention!
Bugger, I must pay more attention!
New tool and holder fitted and centred
New tool and holder fitted and centred
Each cut is just .9 of a mm
Each cut is just .9 of a mm
Slips in nicely
Slips in nicely
The reflector must go way back in yet but the id is now correct
The reflector must go way back in yet but the id is now correct
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Hi Phil
Very nice bit of turning mate looks really good.

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Cheers Muttley you old dog you! And I'm still turning away but I've broken the back of it now. My plan this afternoon was to spend an hour on the half track and a couple of hours on the Centurion but got stuck into the Cent.
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The reflector must go further back.
The reflector must go further back.
It's way deep now
It's way deep now
A bag of swarf anyone?
A bag of swarf anyone?
That's as far as I can let the reflector in.
That's as far as I can let the reflector in.
That's a car indicator bulb and it's not far off the real thing
That's a car indicator bulb and it's not far off the real thing
Gently does it as I dont want to destroy the workpiece at this stage, this diameter is at the limit for my lathe
Gently does it as I dont want to destroy the workpiece at this stage, this diameter is at the limit for my lathe
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This angle is more than a stretch, it's past the stop on the cross slide .
This angle is more than a stretch, it's past the stop on the cross slide .
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Nearly there.
Nearly there.
I'm forming the radius by hand as the workpiece and tool would no doubt chatter if I used a form tool.
I'm forming the radius by hand as the workpiece and tool would no doubt chatter if I used a form tool.
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