Heaven. 1944.

[Brian Ostlind]

So much awesome.

[Scott Boyd]

Just WOW!

[Armortek]

Think you need a trip to Militracks next year Brian
Kian

[Peter Curran]

Trun , near Falaise .

[Chris Hall]

Trun , near Falaise .

Thought it would be somewhere around Falaise. Not so heavenly for the Germans, then .....

[Brian Ostlind]

1945

[Vince Cutajar]

What's that one with number 898? Pz3 or Pz4?

Vince

[Brian Ostlind]

Probably pz4 the gun barrel looks to be larger than any pz3 variant. I don’t know how many pz3s were even around after the war.

[Vince Cutajar]

Pz4 is my second favourite after the Tiger 1. I guess it's from my childhood days when I used to do Airfix models and used to play with them until they broke. Then I would try to convince my father to buy me a new one. He was more into airplanes and ships.

Vince

[Stephen White]

Sorry Brian, that's just a load of old Wehrmacht junk, shot to pieces by 17 pdrs and air to ground rockets. This is really heaven......

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Sorry, couldn't resist it. Mind you, if you had the contents of your photo available today, you would be a very rich man indeed.

[mark lawson]

I'm surprised at you Steven, air to ground rockets were wildly inaccurate the British in 1944 conducted trials with a captured Panther painted white and placed in the middle of an open field, another words a perfect target the RAF then tried to hit the Panther firing a broadside of rockets from all four directions, the results were not good and favoured the Panther if memory serves me right there was less than a 5% chance of being hit by angle rocket from a full salvo of eight rockets on the other hand if a rocket did hit then the results were devastating, being hit by a bomb had even worse results estimations was it took 800 rockets or 3500 bombs to hit a tank in ca combat situation.

I came across a post some years ago by Michael Kenny, try as I have I cant find the post.

[Brian Ostlind]

What would be the most effective anti tank weapon for a plane to mount? Canons?

[mark lawson]

20mm cannons on a Plane were ineffective against armour .50cal even less effective even though US pilots claimed that bouncing rounds off the floor into the belly of a Panzer would knock it out this was not the case not a single German tank was lost to this method even though hundreds of kills were claimed.

[Brian Ostlind]

So carpet bombing I’m guessing then.

[Chris Hall]

Who says you actually have to destroy a tank ? You just need to cause enough peripheral damage (break a track, damage a periscope) to make the crew bail out. Concussion from a near miss could do that, or sheer terror (being under rocket attack would do it for me !).

And there's a world of difference between trying to hit a single vehicle in a field (whatever colour it's painted), and a choked area like Faliase which must have been the ultimate "target rich environment".