TURRET BIN

Graham Ord · Post by **Graham Ord** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:15 pm

PS
I have been waiting for "Achtung Panzer" nÂ° 3" for 5 months now maybe that will tell me when if and I get it.

Pierluigi Patri · Post by **Pierluigi Patri** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:48 pm

Hi Graham,
I've found only a picture in "Ahtung Panzer nÂ°3" but I think it's of no help.
Tomorrow I'll scan it to send you (my scanner does not work).
I think this odd thing is too on the left of the middle line to get the gun balanced during the work.

Graham Ord · Post by **Graham Ord** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:38 pm

TO ALL WHO REPLIED
I have done some research and just looks as if it maybe a lifting hook.

But why it appears to be let into the base I do not know.

Graham Ord · Post by **Graham Ord** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:42 pm

This is where I got the pics from
http://news.webshots.com/album/375961412VcUmDh
http://news.webshots.com/album/560428634mKebeE

Bjorn Wallentinus · Post by **Bjorn Wallentinus** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:45 pm

Found a pic where the whole rectangular plate and ring is missing, doesn't look like it would support much weight. Looks more like an access hatch. No idea what the ring would be good for though.

I can email the pic if anyone want's it.

Regards BjÃ¶rn

Graham Ord · Post by **Graham Ord** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:36 pm

Bjorn
After looking at your picture it definitly looks like a hole under where the ring plate bit fits and looking again at the turret lifting photo perhaps the 2nd sling from the right is not far enough forward to hook into the ring?

Pierluigi Patri · Post by **Pierluigi Patri** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:50 am

I've taken this picture

form page 51 in "Achtung Panzer nÂ°3.
I do not know what is the thing on the the barrel holding part not even if it's correlated to the ring.
As I wrote I think the picture is not useful, anyway...

Robert E Morey · Post by **Robert E Morey** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:50 am

Graham,
Youre right it is quite flimsy looking. And the recess is strange too. A good puzzler? Can our friend Kent Wiik help ID this part and function?

Mike Stannard (toyrific) · Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:23 pm

Don't know if this helps, but it appears all guns of this type have a similar plate. My guess is it is some sort of inspection plate for the gun recoil. The ring I think is just a handle to lift the plate out as it would be difficult to remove the plate without it.

Here is a picture, not very clear of the same plate on a Panzer III. Only one I have had time to find, but the plate appears on several line drawings and plans.

Mike

Graham Ord · Post by **Graham Ord** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:46 pm

Mike
Could it be an oil reservoir to keep topped up for the recoil mechanism?

Tim Bowman · Post by **Tim Bowman** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:02 pm

Hi Graham

That was my thought too. Oil or grease access point for the recoil mechanism.

Tim

colin fairweather · Post by **colin fairweather** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:55 pm

hi all

this is what i found it also looks like it has some kind of locking system?? and notice the the cap with bend over tabs on the main gun sleeve the pzr111 sure has a lot of little detail parts on it when you look closely

a good site too for info check it out

colin

colin fairweather · Post by **colin fairweather** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:43 pm

sorry guys

forgot this subject was the p4

but i did find this realy good photo looks like it has a square bar adjuster and lock down knob on the inside this pic is from a p4

colin

Graham Ord · Post by **Graham Ord** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:05 pm

So now we have a clear picture of the inside, its not a lifting hook, or an oiling point etc but adjusts something, but what?
I will just add a recessed plate and removal ring to my model.