how to /with what

glen brooks · Post by **glen brooks** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:11 pm

Hi all, first time here, i would like to know what people use for doing zimmerit?? ie tools and materials? thanks chaps in advance, glen

Ad Wouterse · Post by **Ad Wouterse** » Fri May 02, 2008 12:56 pm

Hello Glen,

Welcome to this great forum

Your question hits a sore spot, because there are more ways to create zimmerit than there were tanks in WWII

. Every builder has his own "secret" recipies and tools.
So if I start with my "what and how" you probably will get a list with better, superior, smarter etc. methods.
For big-scales I use a 2 component material called "Magic Sculp". It sticks very well to most surfaces, is very smooth and easy to work with. You don't have to hurry, because a little water will soften it again.
My magic tool is a piece of an old fret saw with the appropriate teeth spacing. Works like a dream, for me that is

Who is next ?

Paul Morris · Post by **Paul Morris** » Fri May 02, 2008 2:51 pm

Hello Glen.
Its Milliput 2 part epoxy putty for me, done two complete Tigers so far and no probs, get the putty smoothed out over the surface it does not need to be perfectly smooth have alook at the real thing

then i form the ridges with a scrap piece of metal mine is about 22mm across and 3mm thick i have chamfered the edges it seems to make life easier then the thin vertical line i do with an old knife. Top tip keep a small container of water handy to keep the tool wet and to help spread the Milliput.
Hope this helps. Paul

Martin Cohen · Post by **Martin Cohen** » Sat May 03, 2008 2:36 am

Mike Stannard sells tools for applying the Zimmerit. These vary so you can choose accordingly and end up with a result that looks authentic.

David Pengelly · Post by **David Pengelly** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:01 pm

Tile cement also sticks well

and has around 30 mins working time.

Paul Morris · Post by **Paul Morris** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:25 pm

Hi Folks.
Tried tile adhesive for the rolled steel texture to some good effect and also messed with it for Zimmerit, the results wer O.K. and should still be available in the archive? if you try it be sure to use the powdered type floor tile adhesive and it needs to be flexible and the metal hull requires a good scuffing with oxide type sandpaper.
Just my two penny worth.
Cheers Paul

Lionel Champ · Post by **Lionel Champ** » Thu May 29, 2008 1:56 pm

Hi ,
I need to zimmerit a Tiger and since I am familiarised with Milliput from my plastic model days,I thought that would be the material for me. I was wondering if any one knew approximately how many packets are required ?Thanks
Lionel

glen brooks · Post by **glen brooks** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:01 pm

Hi , i have just done my tiger , tried with miliput but could no get on with it, but had a great time with P38 and it took 2 small tins and done in 1 day , when i work out how i`ll post some pics.
also usesd Mike zim tool set.

Lionel Champ · Post by **Lionel Champ** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:21 pm

Please excuse my ignorance Glen, but what is P 38 and where can I get a can to give it a try? I am guessing that it is a car body filler. I look forwards to seeing pictures on how your Tiger turned out.
Lionel

glen brooks · Post by **glen brooks** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:09 pm

Hi Lionel, yes P38 is car body filler , you need to have a play first as you only have about 10 mins user time, but i did it in about 10" runs, if you email me i`ll take some pic s in the morning and send them too you. glen.brooks@btinternet.com
and i got it from a local garage, halfords etc also do it. hope it helps, glen

David Pengelly · Post by **David Pengelly** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:33 pm

Tile adhesive is whats on my tiger , around 30 mins working time .

Lionel Champ · Post by **Lionel Champ** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:09 pm

Cheers for all the advice.I think the answer is to try all three methods on a piece of scrap ally and see which one I get on with best.
Lionel

Holger Hoffmann · Post by **Holger Hoffmann** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:41 am

Hello Glen.

I do the Zimmerit with Car Body Filler, the processing time is very short, only 4 - 8 minutes.
The tool is very easy, a old Wood saw blade , in several large pieces split.
Have a look at the Gallery -- Holger Hoffmann - Zimmerit & Painting.

glen brooks · Post by **glen brooks** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:21 am

Hi All, thanks for the reply`s, in the end used P38 and a set of mikes tools, as soon as i have the decals from a very nice man called Lee, i`ll send in some pics.