tiger suspension

Dale jordan · Post by **Dale jordan** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:08 pm

Good to hear from you Matthijs . Before I brought my tiger in 2005 . I studied your build photo right to the end. Lots of good info from you Matthijs thank you . Yes I agree with you about the stance of my tiger . I have looked at lots of referance photo and the tracks at the idler end do run level with the top of the road wheels . When my tiger is out in the field on uneven ground I find that the road wheel ride up higher and level out more inline with the top of the idler . Where as before the idler was on the ground . The next time I take here for a run I will have a better look . Dale

Joe Boylan · Post by **Joe Boylan** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:07 pm

Thanks Dale / Allen & Tim and Hi to Matthijs - it's been a long time since we talked.
Glad to see you can change the angle at least once more - I have built a pretty exotic aluminum degree system to set & change degrees. Never thought ot use it to see if I could change the degrees - so I'll try it out.
My bearings have not been locktited in so I am going to take all wheels apart and do so.
Thanks again for all the info - JOE

Allan Richards · Post by **Allan Richards** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:23 pm

Matthijs,

I agree that Dales Tiger suspension is a little too high in the photos but I always thought that the top of the sprocket should be a little higher than the top of road wheels. I remember Vince saying that the track tension on the full size Tiger was correct when one could put ones hand edgeways between the top of the road wheel and the track on the road wheel immediately behind the sprocket, which indicates tha the top of the sprocek must be higher than the road wheels. I agree that the return roller should be roughly level with the road wheels.

Dale, were those pictures taken wit the model at its fighting weight with batteries onboard?? If so it is a little high.

Allan

Allan Richards · Post by **Allan Richards** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:42 pm

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... n%26sa%3DN

If you go to the bottom of this page there is a good shot of a Tiger side on to see the suspension height of a Tiger at fighting weight that has probably run for a few kilometers.

Mike Kasputis · Post by **Mike Kasputis** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:25 am

Here is how to tell the right tension for the tracks. Four fingers over the first road wheel.

Dale jordan · Post by **Dale jordan** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:35 am

Thanks everyone for your comments . Yes Allan she is fully loaded . I set my suspenion angle at 33'o like vince and the other guys . Maybe My tiger is to light , as I have used a lot of alloy instead of steel . I still think it will settle a little lets hope . What I would like is if you guys can post some photos of your tigers side on . So I can compear . I've been through the gallery and the only one that looks spot on is . Doug Pinkerton . Dale

Allan Richards · Post by **Allan Richards** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:21 pm

Dale

Here are some photos of my Tiger now. See how it has settled quite badly but it still runs ok. I've included one of the hull before it was loaded up so you can see the hieght of the suspension by comparison.

Note how I keep the tracks a s clean as you do!!!! Well they were clean at one time

Mike Kasputis · Post by **Mike Kasputis** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:50 am

Here's mine

Dale jordan · Post by **Dale jordan** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:05 am

Thanks Mike and Allan . Mike yours looks great as well !!! . I will see how my tiger settles after a few more runs . Mike can you have a look under your tiger and let me know how much of your drop arms hang below your hull floor my arms seem to be about. 10 -12 mm . I think the real tiger the centre of the axles where level with the bottom . Dale

Mike Kasputis · Post by **Mike Kasputis** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:33 am

Mine has settled a bit so the arms are even with the bottom. I think you are correct that on the real Tiger the center of the axles were level with the bottom.
Here is what mine looks like now.

Dale jordan · Post by **Dale jordan** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:59 am

Thats the photo I have been waiting for Mike . Know wonder your tiger looks so scale like . I was looking at my 1/35 tiger the other day and it's axles where the same as your . Later I might lower mine Tiger or add some more weight . Dale

Dale jordan · Post by **Dale jordan** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:03 am

Mike this is my tiger without motion pack .

Allan Richards · Post by **Allan Richards** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:22 pm

Dale,

I'll have a look at mine and photo it underneath. I'll do it tomorrow as I've just got in from freezing myself clay shooting. We are suffering a cold windy Easter!!!.

JWFGoode · Post by **JWFGoode** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:50 pm

I have experienced some minor relaxing of the rear, I wonder if anyone has had to add a little more height there to compensate? I'm on my second set of torsion bars, so I dearly hope to avoid any more replacement. I made my own & had them spring tempered but they are still a pain to complete. & once I flat them for the set screw, there is no more adjustment. I know, gripe gripe gripe.
John

Roland Mann · Post by **Roland Mann** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:32 pm

Hi Tiger owners,

when the Panther was introduced by Armortek, I was wondering why it has bigger center torsion springs ( bars ) than the Tiger also when it was lighter. Comparing this info with the experiances of first runs in the forum it was obvious to me, the center torsion bars have to be encreased in Ã˜. So I pulled all center springs and went for 4,5 mm Ã˜ after drilling the axles and bearing blocks as well. The result is no setlement after my first run. The hight is stable with 78 mm front and rear ( 470 mm on the original ). The increase from 4 to 4,5 mm Ã˜ is equivalent to an encrease in spring tension by 26,6 % ! Very recomendable.

Roland