Paint mix details wanted

[Derek Attree]

Hi Guys
Does any one have the paint mix code or details for the late war comet?
I know this has been talked about a lot for the German stuff
I dont even know what the colour was called but I know it changed on latter models.

Thanks

Derek

[Stephen White]

Derek

Tricky this. The late war Comets were painted in a uniquely British colour known as SCC 15 (Standard Camoulflage Colour 15). The colour is semi matt. Around 1950, the post war tanks were re-painted in Deep Bronze Green, a gloss colour.

The standard description of SCC 15 is: Olive Drab BS987C SCC No.15

Finding a match isn't easy.

White Ensign Miniatures do a match in small tins (but enamel not acrylic):

http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/acatal ... R_20B_2001

Other recommendations are to mix four parts of Tamiya Olive Green with three parts Olive Drab but that's a real fiddle.

There's a useful guide from MAFVA here:

http://www.mafva.net/PDF/BritishCamouflage3.pdf

Mike Starmer has also suggested a Vallejo acriylic mix, equal parts 70924 and 70888, which would be simpler.

These guys in Germany also appear to do SCC 15:

http://www.jpsmodell.de/katalog/jpsraf_e.htm

The Jacques Littlefield Comet is pretty well in WWII configuration and the colour is supposed to be close to SCC 15.

Hope this helps.

Perhaps if enough of us got together, we might persuade one of the paint manufacturers to produce a batch in bigger quantities.

Regards

Stephen

[Steve Stuart]

Hi Stephen and Derek
May I put my name forward as someone who would participate in a bulk buy of some paint when the time comes.
I have Dunklegelb produced by Phoenix Precision Paints (It is an enamel paint) for my Tiger. I guess they would be happy to produce SCC 15 if the order size was sensible. However I have no idea about who would produce it in acrylic.
Regards
Steve

[Derek Attree]

Hi Stephen
Thanks for the info I think I will try to mix a small
amount and then take it to Morells to see if they can do a mix.
I want it in celeulose for spraying.
I don't like acrylic paint.

Derek

[Allan Webster]

Flair products produce a range of matt enamel model paints in 400ml aerosol cans, called Spectrum Paints. They offer the british WWII version of olive drab. I think it is possible to buy a smaller can to test for colour. A number of retailers stock this paint - my preference is the Sussex Model Centre : http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/

There are a number of suppliers of the correct british olive drab in enamel, either in large cans or aerosol, aimed at historic vehicle owners. Many of these advertise here :
http://www.milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=51

As someone said earlier british vehicles were in fact painted in semi-gloss. However, this seems to have lost its sheen very quickly in use, hence the tendency for only matt paint to be used. But if you want your Comet in parade condition you could always use a suitable clear gloss finish.

[Derek Attree]

Hi Allen
I am wondering if the paint suppliers at War and Peace show may have
some of the right colour or be able to mix it.

Derek

[Allan Webster]

I was at the Trucks and Troops show at Beaulieu over the weekend. This show, like War and Peace, is targeted on owners of historic vehicles and re-enactors but it's much smaller. I came across a stall selling parts and paints for WWII US vehicles. They had US olive drab in cans, from about 5 litres downward and in aerosols. I asked the seller whether she had the british version - she didn't - but she did say there were many sellers of it and the milweb.net site was her suggestion.

In short I think it highly likely that you would find a seller at War and Peace but, if I was still looking for paint, I wouldn't wait until then and telephone around instead. I have already bought enough aerosols from the Sussex Model Centre for my and Barry Dominy's Comets. But that was before it occurred to me that paint might be available from classic vehicle suppliers. There doesn't seem much difference in the cost of aerosols anyway.

[David Da Costa]

As we are about a month away from receiving our Comet's, I thought it worth bringing this subject back to the top.

Still looking for a paint source especially in the USA.

If anyone has any new ideas, please let me know.

Thanks

David

[Steve Stuart]

Thanks David for your thought, this was something I was thinking about as well.
I guess this is something that can be talked through at the open weekend for those of us who are waiting for the Comet!
Steve

[Derek Attree]

Hi guys
Well I got some paint and thinners at war and Peace the other week.
But did not place a post as I have been moving house.
I got british olive drab from a company called
RR Motor services based in Great Chart Kent.

The owners name is Kerry Cheese and the phone number is

01233 820219

the web site is www.rrservices.co.uk.

He also does the post war British green and many other paints for the real restorers.

Mine cost £20 for one ltr of paint and the thinners.mine is listed as
BS 298 olive drab with sheen 15% which is the modern number for
war time tank green.

Hope this helps

Derek

[David Da Costa]

Thanks Derek,

I will contact him and see if he will ship to the USA.

Regards

David

[Steve Stuart]

Thanks Derek for the lead.
I have just ordered some paint, a litre, from RRServices who were very helpful in dealing this request, so problem solved!
What could be useful for some, is that they do aerosol cans. However ther are minimum quanities which might mean a group purchase of paint is the way forward ?
Steve

[Derek Attree]

Hi Steve
Glad it helped

Derek

[David Da Costa]

Unfortunately they can't ship to US.

David

[Joe Lilley]

Hi Guys

Just spoken to Kerry Cheese to order paint, he has quoted BS 641 as late war green whereas Derek suggested BS248 - as a newcomer to land warfare - having argued for many years over the correct "navy grey" with my fellow model boat builders (the conclusion being that what ever colour that came to hand is what would be used) - can anyone shed some light please?

Joe