Panther Ammo and Patronenkasten

Tim Bowman · Post by **Tim Bowman** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:02 am

Hi everyone

Here's the first in a series of ammo projects I am working on. I'll add photos of the other types of available ammunition soon.

The following are available: Panther 7,5cm Pzgr. Patr. 39 Kw.K42, 7,5cm Sprgr. Patr. 42 Kw.K42. Panzer IV 7,5cm Pzrg. Patr. 39 Kw.K 40, 7,5cm Gr.Patr.38 HI/B Kw.K 40. Patronenkasten for the both are available in unpainted wood or painted green and include complete markings and labels that match the specific ammo type in the transport case. Each piece is done by hand including the detailed wood grain/knots in each piece.

The ammunition has matching markings on the casing's base, side and projectile.

Prices as of May 1st

KwK 42 Transport Box Wood $25.00
KwK 42 Transport Box Wood/Painted $30.00
KwK 42 Transport Box Wood+2 Painted Rounds $35.00
KwK 42 Transport Box Wood/Painted+2 Painted Rounds $40.00

KwK 42 Casing Resin/Painted (for use as spent casings) 2 $10.00

I am currently working on research for the Panzer III, both L42 and L60 ammunition. The transport box will be the wood version.
If you are interested in any of the above, please feel free to PM or email me.

Thanks
Tim

Dale jordan · Post by **Dale jordan** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:13 am

Tim .. Wonderful products , great photos , excellent art work and layout ... No wonder you can build great models ..Dale .

michael robinson · Post by **michael robinson** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:18 am

Hi Tim;
I will take TWO sets (painted box & rounds) of each type for the Panther 75mm rounds. Please let me know how to get payment to you.

Also when you make the rounds for the Jadgpanther, please let me know

regards

Tim Bowman · Post by **Tim Bowman** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:48 am

Hi Michael,

Thanks. I should have them ready by the end of this week. Please PM me with the address where you would like them sent. Once I have shipping costs I can send you the total. I accept Paypal but no need to worry about payment until I have your order ready to send.

As far as Jagdpanther ammo? Mike Stannard already has that covered and in the works I believe with these fine pieces! http://www.armortek.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1096

I will be making Tiger II/Jagdpanther boxes though with complete markings to go with his ammo.

My Tiger 1 boxes are also designed for Mike's Tiger 1 ammo. http://www.armortek.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=199

I have also had several requests for the "Tropical" versions of the PIII ammo boxes and will happily make those as well for anyone interested with a DAK or Italian campaign PIII. I hope to turn some 5cm ammo this weekend. I guess the PIV and Tiger 1 would also have "Tropical" color and marked boxes?? I am admittedly ignorant when it comes to nearly all things DAK and will attempt to research it more thoroughly.

regards
Tim

Jim Fowler · Post by **Jim Fowler** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm

Tim,

I am VERY interested in getting both 50mm (5cm) long and short ammo boxes in "Tropical" DAK scheme. And, obviously, shells too... (I don't know if your considering making 50mm, short ammunition as the standard Armortek P3 is a long-barrel version)

Coincidently, I just asked Dave at Armorpax if he would consider making the 50 mm shells, as I did not know you were considering offering them. I bring this up because I don't want to cause an issue or cause either of you extra work. (I just cause a bit of a mess for Lee and Dave, as my impatience got the better of me; unfortunately, I see things and the "KID" in me kicks in with that "GOT-TO-HAVE-IT-NOW" attitude and lookout......) Anyway, please keep me in mind if you do offer P3 sheels and/or boxes.

Tim Bowman · Post by **Tim Bowman** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:27 pm

Hi Jim

I was planning on doing both L42 and L60 ammunition in standard, as well as DAK "tropical", patronenkasten. However, if Dave decides to produce them, I will not be producing them.

I do have a late Tiger I would like to get working on.

Kind regards
Tim

Michael McGaren · Post by **Michael McGaren** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:25 am

Guys,

I ordered 1 each (HE and AP), fully painted, of the Panther ammo from Tim. I just received them today. All I can say is that they are outstanding. The craftsmanship is excellent. If you are looking for ammo for your Panther or Panzer IV, you need to get these!!

Mike

Jim Fowler · Post by **Jim Fowler** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:54 pm

Tim,

I got an email from Dave saying he had more than enough projects and since you were planning them already, he was not. So, may I ask you to reconsider?

If you need a base amount of interest (product orders) to move on this, what would that be? I could possible help that effort with an advance order?

Please let me know.

Antony Rowley · Post by **Antony Rowley** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:25 pm

Hi Tim,

Received my ammo and boxes todays. All I can say is Thank You, they are fantastic

I've posted some photo's on the Panther thread.

Tim, I'm still looking for some photo's of Panzer III DAK ammo boxes but so far I've had no joy

I'll keep on looking though

Thanks Antony

Stephen White · Post by **Stephen White** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:14 am

Tim

Hope the following might be helful. I'm still looking for photos of the patronenkasten for the DAK or 10 Pz Div in Tunisia.

I'd be very interested in L60 (KwK39) ammunition and the boxes. Great work on the bigger stuff.

Regards

Stephen

Antony Rowley · Post by **Antony Rowley** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:33 am

Hi,

Photo's of the ammo boxes:

5 cm Kwk.39

5 cm Kwk.38 metal

5 cm Pak.38/Kw.K.39

5 cm Kw.K.40 metal

All these found on http://wehrmachts.kisten.free.fr/ a fantastic site

Thanks Antony

Tim Bowman · Post by **Tim Bowman** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:03 pm

Hi Stephen and Antony

Stephen, thank you for the images. The more reference, the better. I love that color photo of the crew loading up!!! I have started work on both L42 and L60 and hope to post some photos soon. I'm making a few types of each, both complete rounds and spent casings.

Antony, thank you for the pictures of the cases. I do know of the site and it is a superb source of reference. I will definitely be making the wood boxes and I am thinking of MAYBE(big maybe) making the metal version as well(not in metal but in resin).

Thanks for the interest.
Kind regards
Tim