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Is it possible to connect both speaker cable to one big speaker ? :?
Anybody done that? Got the red boxes for my Stug .
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It's a stereo amplifier, so if you connect the speaker outputs together you will destroy it.

You could just use one output and leave the other disconnected.

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Hi Björn,

I'm using one big loudspeaker (subwoofer) with two coils on its membrane in my tanks (in Germany so called 'double moving coil speaker'). This allows me to connect a 2 channel amplifier to one loudspeaker and get twice the power on it. If you would do it to a single moving coil speaker, you would destroy the amplifier.

IMHO it's not the best idea to use 2 small speakers instead of one big model, because a bigger speaker can emit lower frequencies, and this bass sound makes the essence of a tank noise. Therefore it is much better to use a single, but big speaker. Fortunately we have in our tanks no real stereo signal, but simple 2 signals with identical content. So we can combine these signals in one speaker.

Here you see such a subwoofer in my Jagdpanther, accompanied by two little tweeters. I'm using an amplifier with 2 x 100 watts.

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IMHO people run their models too loud anyway. I’ve heard Tiger 131 running around at Bovington, and it always sounds remarkably quiet to me …..
An exception might be made for the main gun, though 🤣🤣 if you could run that file on a separate channel 🤔
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Gerhard Michel wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:23 pm
Hi Björn,

I'm using one big loudspeaker (subwoofer) with two coils on its membrane in my tanks (in Germany so called 'double moving coil speaker'). This allows me to connect a 2 channel amplifier to one loudspeaker and get twice the power on it. If you would do it to a single moving coil speaker, you would destroy the amplifier.

IMHO it's not the best idea to use 2 small speakers instead of one big model, because a bigger speaker can emit lower frequencies, and this bass sound makes the essence of a tank noise. Therefore it is much better to use a single, but big speaker. Fortunately we have in our tanks no real stereo signal, but simple 2 signals with identical content. So we can combine these signals in one speaker.

Here you see such a subwoofer in my Jagdpanther, accompanied by two little tweeters. I'm using an amplifier with 2 x 100 watts.

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Dear Gerhard,

thank you for this impressive photo and your valuable explanation! I just started a Leopard built and am switching to a 1-channel amplifier with 500W of brutal force ... I am still waiting for my motion pack to figure out how much space I am left with to build something similar to your version in the JP ... it is my view (I might be BBQed on that) to get as much sound power in it as possible ... we can always volume down right ??

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ok got it , Thank you then I keep my lay out at least I have two good speakers in there.
and yea real , jelaous off all off you with big tanks . :wink:
I got a Stug not much room there :|
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Chris Hall wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:40 pm
IMHO people run their models too loud anyway. I’ve heard Tiger 131 running around at Bovington, and it always sounds remarkably quiet to me …..
An exception might be made for the main gun, though 🤣🤣 if you could run that file on a separate channel 🤔
Yes or maybe two sound card :?
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Adrian Harris wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:37 am
It's a stereo amplifier, so if you connect the speaker outputs together you will destroy it.

You could just use one output and leave the other disconnected.

Adrian.
ok thanks Adrian
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Hi Andre,

a large audio output power needs a powerful and big speaker, and a big speaker needs a big box around it for good sounding. This is a disadvantage of our models in 1/6 scale, because there is not much space to install such a box. Therefore I stopped my efforts at 300 watts. My colleagues with their 1/4 scale models have installed up to 2,000 watts, which can already cause some little pain to the chest like a real tank. A funny side effect is that the sound of these tanks can consume much more power than the whole drive! Of course we all use a stepless loudness control by R/C to minimize the noise when driving nearby or indoor.
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