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Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:10 am
by Eric Reinhard1
Hello all from the USA (Middle Tennessee)! Future owner of what will probably be my only Armortek tank, a Leopard 2A4. I’m reading through the knowledge base and starting to gather what (I think) I’ll need for the build and operation. Read with interest the “lazy susan” thread and starting to shop for a hydraulic lift cart and here’s my question. What would be the best or adequate size of the platform to handle this size model? My goal would be to have the tank fairly centered on the platform for construction/maintenance/transport. It’s not tank hull width but length I’m thinking about. With a hull approximately 60”(?) long and typical platform length of 32”, I would think I’ll need to lower or bend the push handle back to keep tank centered and maintain clearance while raising/lower platform and avoid potential balance/tipping issues.
Am I overthinking this? Your advice/experience is appreciated
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:09 am
by Michael Allen
Eric
I am building (very slowly) a KT and concentrated on the weight tolerance of my platform lift - settled for 300kg.
Table/platform dimensions are 815mm x 500mm
I then bolted 18mm MDF 1500mm x 600mm to the platform.
I have had the hull on this for a number of months with no issues at all.
Hope that helps
Mick
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:17 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Eric
I basically have the same set up as Michael and have built
10 models including the Famo so far no issue at all.
Regards Derek
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:21 am
by Adrian Harris
I'm currently using a dog grooming bed, but it has a weight limit of 100kg, so only of use up to medium sized tanks.
Do people build their own fixed support for these lifting tables or do they come with them ?
I have a couple and both sink under their own weight after a couple of days.
Adrian.
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:45 am
by Gerhard Michel
Hi guys,
I also have to use a lifting table, but I additional have to use a turntable upon the lifting table to adjust the tank's direction for parking and for leaving the basement. This turntable is also helpful when working at the model. Ball bearings at the turntable allow an easy changing of the direction also with the model on board. To leave the basement upon ramps I had to increase the total height of the lifting table.
The upper plate with the ball bearings:
My Jagdpanther upon the table:
And now along the way to the ramps:
Rotated through 90° and ready for leaving the basement:
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:58 pm
by Paul Sparkes
Michael Allen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:09 am
Eric
I am building (very slowly) a KT and concentrated on the weight tolerance of my platform lift - settled for 300kg.
Table/platform dimensions are 815mm x 500mm
I then bolted 18mm MDF 1500mm x 600mm to the platform.
I have had the hull on this for a number of months with no issues at all.
Hope that helps
Mick
This is exactly how I started off until my Jagdtiger became too heavy and decided it wanted to depart from the lift table, I then got a larger table which is a lot more stable. I was lucky it didn't come right off and hurt me.
Paul
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:21 pm
by Daniel Scholefield
This is my Mark IV on the 200kg lift table / trolley I bought when I realised it was going to be too heavy to lift any more, been no issue ever since. There is some overhang but it's long enough to cope with one of the longer Armortek kits.
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:45 am
by Aaron Taylor
I use two saw horses from home depot and a 1.5 in thick laminated board my pershing sits on a motorcycle jack with some foam on top. If I need to lower my tank I use my chain hoist under the work top lift it remove the saw horses lower down then I can drive it off when it's done. Or I can use a ramp to drive it off. The laminated pine top has held up no issues. Laminated osb would work too. If i need to move around i get my parts and just go to the other side.......the bearings are cool though ill admit......The beast you are building I'm not sure how but maybe this helps some i work on cars etc and don't want my garage cluttered with tables saw horses move easy and hold a lot.... I need to work on vehicles inside due to the heat of the mojave desert.
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:47 am
by Aaron Taylor
And my lord those are some big tanks you guys got
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:55 am
by Steve Norris
I use a 300 kg lift table that uses a screw thread for lifting and lowering as I found my hydraulic table used to sink over time, I also was a bit concerned about a hose failure leading to sudden collapse. I have mounted a motorcycle lift table on top to allow me to lift the hull clear of the table for wheel and suspension installation and motor/track testing.
- Motorcycle lift table raised to support the hull
- MDF surrounds the motorcycle lift table so that when lowered it is a flat surface and also provides some grip to prevent the tracks sliding
Regards
Steve
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:02 pm
by Jerry Carducci
" .....Future owner of what will probably be my only Armortek tank....."
Now where have I heard that before....we need to keep posting things like that for the benefit of significant others and other
interested parties, no?
Jerry
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:17 pm
by Donald Suttie
I see a few people using MDF for the top of their lift,i would advise against this and use 16mm or 25mm plywood instead,MDF tends to sag if left in a damp or cold atmosphere
i am tending to find my build is quite slow and the tank is left for lengthy periods on the lift table,the MDF didn't work out for me,nor did the workshop shelf's
if you are lucky enough to have a stable temperature all year round go for MDF,but for me the plywood is the way to go,zero sag
Donald
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:10 am
by Aaron Taylor
Is it allright to let tanks sit on the tracks with torsion bar suspension???? Will they loose spring after a while? Should I leave it on the motorbike jack?
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:10 pm
by Marco Peter
Aaron Taylor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:10 am
Is it allright to let tanks sit on the tracks with torsion bar suspension???? Will they loose spring after a while? Should I leave it on the motorbike jack?
Motorbike jack for me on all my tanks.
Re: Noob lift table question
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:13 pm
by Gerhard Michel
Modified hydraulic car jacks for my tanks............