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New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:35 pm
by Vince Cutajar
Hi guys

After all the drawings I've done in the last few days, today I found myself not doing anything (except twiddling my fingers). So, I set myself a new challenge to do a drawing and learn how to use a new command (for me). After some failed attempts and a few choice words as I don't have any hair to pull I ended up with this:
Test Rifling Insert v1.jpg
I always wanted to find out how to draw this and today I finally learned how to do it.

Vince

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:23 pm
by Adrian Harris
Well done. And easily scaled to fit any sized barrel.

I wouldn't mind having a go at printing that ;-)

Adrian.

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:41 pm
by Vince Cutajar
You're welcome to it but this is just a test drawing. No particular diameter and length. Don't even know if the twist angle is correct.

Vince

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:42 pm
by Adrian Harris
To give you an idea, and as I happen to be a Shermanaholic, the US M3 75mm gun had 24 grooves, with a uniform right-hand twist rate of one turn per 25.59 calibres, which translates to near enough one turn per 320mm.

I believe Mark machined the 75mm barrels from aluminium round tube with an ID of 1/2", as that's quite close in scale and a standard item from metal stockists. The outside diameter of the end of the barrel is 18mm, so a 14mm drill would create enough of a pocket. The old M4A3 Sherman has a threaded recess in the end anyway, to take the pepperpot for the blank firer, so that could cleaned up and used. From memory, it's about 25mm deep.

Adrian.

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:24 pm
by Vince Cutajar
Adrian

So that I get it right.
which translates to near enough one turn per 320mm.
Sherman.jpg
The tube has an I.D. of 75mm. It is 320mm long. The groove starts at 12 o clock at one end and finishes at 12 o clock at the other end. Is that correct?

That's just one groove I am showing.

Vince

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:34 pm
by Adrian Harris
Yes, that's the way I understand it.

The whole gun barrel on the real thing is only 37.5 calibres long, so the shell rotates about 1.5 times before exiting the muzzle.

Adrian.

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:12 pm
by Vince Cutajar
I made the drawing of the insert full size. O.D.=85mm. I.D.=75mm. Length of insert=320mm. 24 grooves. Groove width=4.5mm. How does it look?
Sherman full size v1.jpg
If I scale it down to 1/6 then the grooves will be 0.75mm wide. Do you think it will work?

Vince

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:09 pm
by Adrian Harris
This is the end of the real thing, so your twist looks too severe to me. Also, the actual grooves are very shallow.

DSC_2195a.jpg

The fine resolution profile on my printer has a 0.1mm layer height, so it ought to be able to cope with 0.75mm.

Just realised, we've mixed the full scale and 1/6th measurements.

In full scale - with an ID of 75mm - a single turn length is 1919.25mm, which is why that looks too twisty.

So in full scale, it's 75mm ID and a twist length of 1919.25mm, or in 1/6th scale it's an ID of 12.5mm and a twist length of 320mm.

Adrian.

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:41 pm
by Vince Cutajar
Re-calculated with new info.
Sherman full size v1.jpg
Vince

Re: New Challenge

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:46 pm
by Adrian Harris
That looks very good Vince :-)

Just need to trim it so that it's only the first 25mm or so, rather the the full twist length.

Adrian.