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Simulating Welds

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:13 pm
by Pete Nash
I think I saw somewhere a technique for simulating welds. I belive it involved rolling a long strip of Milliput andmarking it with a tool to simulate the effect of puddling.

I tried it but couldn't get on with it I found that the milliput didn't stick to the metal without having to use so much pressure I lost the shape of the roll.

I puzled as to how to simulate welds so i tried the following method.
I found in my 'collection' some 3m 'D' section styrene. I superglued a pair of strips to the turret and got my Gas Dremmel soldering Iron, fitted the Chisel attachment and got to work.

The result is in the following images.

Do you, my fellow 'tankers' think it is a good simulation?, and if not what I can do to improve it.

Regards

Pete

Re: Simulating Welds

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:31 pm
by Adrian Harris
An interesting idea - not heard of anyone else trying it.

To me, the texture looks a little rough and slightly too prominent for German welds. Perfect for a T-34 :lol:

Maybe a rubdown with some wet&dry to soften the effect ?

Adrian.

Re: Simulating Welds

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:22 pm
by Christian Steinhauer
Hello Pete,

here is an example
Image

The edges of the plates are chamfered and the groove forms a "V", the weld runs in the "V". I can't find the word "Plattenstoss" :?
So the welds are not on the plates, more between.

Re: Simulating Welds

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:54 pm
by Pete Nash
Thank you Adrian and Christian.

haven't lost anything so far, except a strip of styrene. Using Superglue means it is easy to pry off.

I agree with both of you, it does look a bit on the rough side but I decided to post to see what others thought.

I know German engineering was meticulous, too meticulous at times at the expense of production.
later in the war when slave labour was used to build tanks my attempt would be apt but not for 1942/43 so I will rub down with wet & dry to improve the appearance.

Using 3mm styrene would give a scale width of 18mm which looks about right.

Pete

Re: Simulating Welds

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:56 pm
by Pete Nash
Thank you Adrian and Christian.

haven't lost anything so far, except a strip of styrene. Using Superglue means it is easy to pry off.

I agree with both of you, it does look a bit on the rough side but I decided to post to see what others thought.

I know German engineering was meticulous, too meticulous at times at the expense of production.
later in the war when slave labour was used to build tanks my attempt would be apt but not for 1942/43 so I will rub down with wet & dry to improve the appearance.

Using 3mm styrene would give a scale width of 18mm which looks about right.

Pete

Re: Simulating Welds

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:33 pm
by Phil Woollard
Pete if you want something other than milliput then check out the material that Stephen swears by, try the Knowledge base for reference, i'll take a look for the product and edit this post in a minuet. I think it might be called "fabric paint"
I prefer the milliput, it's just a matter developing a technique using water (or saliva ) and slightly wetting the joint and then rubbing the sausage in with your wet finger applying a good amount of pressure as you go, tools used for the impression.....an allen wrench, depending on the size of the weld try different diameters, also try a track pin, then smooth the formation a little with a wet artists paint brush....Phil.

Re: Simulating Welds

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:29 pm
by Stephen White
Here's what I posted on Vince's Tiger thread back in April.

Hope it helps. I should update the Knowledge Bases sometime.

http://www.armortek.co.uk/Forum3b/viewt ... a56#p60732

The third link above takes you to the product I'm using now.

Stephen