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Machine guns proper names

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:49 am
by Sam Hough
Sorry if I'm being lazy but...

What do most people call the two different machine guns? "Main" and "Mantlet"? (I've only just stopped saying Mantle)

Also what is the proper name for the large bit that the main gun slides on? So behind the mantlet and very visible on guns like 17pdr protruding out of the mantlet.

Thanks

Sam

Re: Machine guns proper names

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:58 am
by Adrian Harris
I call the one in the hull either the "Hull MG" or "Bow MG" and the one in the turret the "Coaxial MG"

These are the names for the Tiger:

http://tiger1.info/EN/Gun-dimensions.html

I would guess the British Army would call it something obvious like "Gun, Main, Sleeve, Enclosing" :lol:

Adrian.

Re: Machine guns proper names

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:29 am
by Sam Hough
Many thanks,

Re What's in a name?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 11:28 am
by Stephen White
Tools,Fine, Adjusting, (REME for the use of):

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Tools, Heavy, Adjusting, (RE for the use of):

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Boats, Sauce:

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Boats, Motor Gun:

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For tank weapons, the British Way:

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The American Way:

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The German Way:

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Or simply: Main Armament, Coax MG, Hull MG, Comd's MG.

Finally,why was the first British SA-80 known as the Politician? Because it didn't work and you couldn't fire it.

Anon

Re: Machine guns proper names

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 11:48 am
by Sam Hough
Thanks!

Don't tell Dad there is another machine gun for him to control.

I've struggling to keep up http://ellen.redspr.com:8080/ ;)

Will report back when I've digested Stephen's information.

Re: Machine guns proper names

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:40 pm
by Fabrice Le Roux
Hi Sam,

re your 17pdr question. The gun tube/barrel sits/slides on a "cradle", often containing the recoil mechanism. The cradle is pivoted via the trunnions. The recoil mechanism in tanks is more compact to fit in the turret, but also more of the recoil can be tranmitted to the tank structure. This has been taken to extremes in some designs by removing any recoil absorption and relying on the mass of the chassis to act as a dead weight. The advantage in having some recoil mechanism is that laying the sights back on the target is quicker as they will not have been thrown out by the tank moving. In the age of fire computers and gyrostabilisation this is a bit of history.

cheers
Fabrice

Re: Machine guns proper names

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:24 pm
by Christoffer Ahlfors
Tools, heavy, adjusting...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Machine guns' proper names

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:53 am
by Sam Hough
Thanks Fabrice,

This hobby seems to bring out the OCD in me.

Re: Machine guns proper names

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 9:16 am
by Fabrice Le Roux
Sam,

Armortek-Induced-OCD. Hmmm. I don't think you are alone with that diagnosis... :)

cheers
Fabrice