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unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:58 am
by Bob Gould
Can anyone shine sone light on this pic from a panzer 3 please

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:30 am
by Stephen White
Looks like we've got a whole new competition section developing - guess the bit.....

My first reaction was that there was nothing on the photo I could associate with a Pz III but the tread plate looks familiar. My starter for ten is that you're looking at the hull floor and this is a hatch in the hull bottom plate to discard rubbish such as empty shell cases when closed down. The Pz III turret didn't have a turntable so the hull floor is accessible.

Have a look at this diagramme in Panzer Tracts, which may show the outside location:

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But I may well be wrong.

Regards

Stephen

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:39 am
by Christian Steinhauer
Hello,

I don't know if there was a change between the hulls for this hatch but on the Munster Pz.III I can't see this hatch.
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Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:23 am
by Per Sonnervik
Stephan won the first competition - it´s a hatch in the hull floor for throwing out spent casings. It´s behind the M.G./R.O. seat and you can see three bolts securing the hinge and one for the lock - all tie in with Doyle´s drawing, see photo below;

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/Per

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:01 am
by Christian Steinhauer
Hello Per,

which Modell/Typ is this on the photos.

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:52 am
by Per Sonnervik
Hello Christian,

The photos are from the booklet "AFV super detail photo book Vol. 6 Pz Kpfw III Ausf J/L" by Model Art. These particular photos must be from the Bovington Tank Museum´s Panzer III Ausf. L.

Hope that helps.

Per

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:50 pm
by Bob Gould
Hi thank you for the info. These pics are private pics taken from ukrain a few years ago when they found a panzer 3 in a bog and i was one of the people in a funding project to bring it to the uk. Our proposal fell through though due to an exuberant price. I have many more pics of the clean up both internal and outside if you would like them

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:46 pm
by Christian Steinhauer
Ok, I only knew pictures with white interrieur of the Bovington Pz.III, however
maybe this hatch was a victim by simplification of the Wanne started in late L
version.

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:57 pm
by Bob Gould
Some equipment pics

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:00 pm
by Bob Gould
Internals

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:50 pm
by Bob Gould
I have posted the rest on my Tank Detail thread under Panzer III

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:42 pm
by Christian Steinhauer
Hello Bob,

thanks for sharing the pics, very nice details. Am I right, the interieur pics are
from after after the restauration or are these original colours? Can you tell us more?

Re: unknown panzer 3 hatch

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:19 pm
by Bob Gould
Thanks for the info guys, yes thats def the hatch. Do you think it should be on the armortek versions?

@ Christian: The tank was in a peat bog and was apparently in extraordinary good condition. I would say the images are post painting though but I can be sure as I didn’t see it it RL as our negotiations fell through before a site visit