Armortek

Phil you are amazing, i dont know how you manage to do it and so quickly...

but thanks for sharing as usual.

Cheers

Andy

Thanks for the kind words guys it's much appreciated. Vince is there any chance you could cad a charge bag cover lid please? I have some translucent pla which would look really cool!

A question for all the chieftain owners, I have details of the entire issued kit list of contents for every one of the storage lockers and turret baskets for the mk5.
How much interest would there be for the entire kit or part kit , well most of it as some lists include various covers?
The sleeping bags could be resin, as could be the ground sheets etc
The large packs and tank suits can be sourced from ebay or again cast in resin.

I count approximately 115 individual pieces from a 5 ton bottle Jack to an oil can, more if you count say sleeping bags as not one but x4!

Now I'm thinking of asking a well known manufacturer of such items that we all know and love but it would depend on commercially viable numbers to make this huge amount of kit worth his while?

As I am having the morning off due to the cyno that I have been using really affecting my konk, I have been considering various aspects of the possible Mighty Antar build, particularly the hydraulic loading ramps for one example.
Now hydraulics in my opinion are very problematic, so I've been contemplating using the very capable dc electric linear actuators that are now on the market see above.

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Reference the chieftain kit locker question, there's obviously no interest so I shall endeavour to put together a comprehensive kit as best I can, should be interesting.
I've been printing and planning the charge bag container positions, the poor old loaders seat was also plonked on top of these. Also made a start on the boiling vessel to.

How's this for the lid of the charge bag containers? You can print it (transparent) as one piece and glue it in.
Vince

Perfect Vince! I'll get the drawings done of the trapezoidal/ rhomboid charge bin containers, well I don't know what shape you call them

Phil looking at that photo of those three containers with the shells sitting in front of them. Looks like each container carries 6 items and not 4.

Sending you the stl for the lid with hinge. Would be interesting to see how it looks with a transparent filament.

Vince

I'll check my detailed drawings of the turret interior for the mk5 when I'm in the workshop tomorrow, I know they show the charge bag bins more clearly, I should be able to print the lids this evening, it's so exciting!

There were three charge bins mounted on the hull engine firewall at the back of the turret with six, five and six charge bins respectively. The usual stowage was to use the front rows (ie those nearest the breech) for Fin (one bag charge per bin) and the rear row for HESH/Smoke (two bag charges per bin). The latter were half the diameter of the former. These bins were fixed to the hull and did not traverse with the turret.
To the loader's front left was a ready round charge container with four bins. Usual load was two and two. It was mounted on the turret turntable and traversed with it.

See the ammunition stowage diagrammes I posted a few pages back.

Phil, found the diagram Stephen is referring to. It's on page 54 of this build log. As he said, the side containers have a capacity of 6 and the middle one holds 5. As you can see in this diagram, the sides of these containers are curved. As I don't have a chieftain, you have to tell me what radius I should use for these curved containers.

Vince

Phil, I have said it before your attention to detail is second to none, it’s fascinating watching your build. Now you have the 3D printer there is no stopping you.

Thank you Andy I do try very hard but I have to compromise a lot as it's the only way to get it all in!
Thanks stephen, at present I'm not sure if I can get the fixed to the hull charge bag containers in, as there's motion modules and switchers in the way but we will see.
Vince, using Stephen's diagram stowage photo, the three charge bag containers to the rear of the turret are indeed a six, a five, and a six. Working from above and from right to left, the first six bin in under the commanders seat and can't be seen. The middle five container we need, the left container a six we need. I will draw those up tomorrow morning. I will also detail the cut out to the rear underside of each bin to, the turret turn gear will collide with the bins if we don't! It's tight in there just like the real thing.

The clansman radios were connected to an IB2 orIB3 ( Interconnection Box 2-Radio or 3 -Radio ) depending on radio fit, normal tank or command tank.
Turret radio harness was a 360 circuit around the turret so one break would not have affected operation. The CB ( Crew Box ) at each station had harness sockets at each side, two sockets on the bottom each for mic and headphone, two people could plug in on the same CB if necessary, and rotary switches for listening in on radio 1, radio 2 or both, and transmitting on radio 1 or radio 2 The DB ( Drivers Box ) was a bit more basic as he did not require those functions.
Mark

The right hand rear hull charge bin was indeed under the commanders seat when the turret was directly gun front and not accessable.
Loaders were trained to use that bin if circumstances allowed and re-plen the other bins from it when there was a break from the battle. The turret bin and left hand rear bin plus maybe half of the center bin were ready bag-charges, the rest were stowage containers.
Heard over the net on ranges quite regularly " Callsign ** Re-stowing " informing the other tanks of the troop that the turret was under the control of the loader so gunner and commander were unable to observe to the front. Very quickly followed by "Restowage complete"