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phil fitzpatrick
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Stuart and Sand

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Nice vidio Phil,hope you can replicate it on your Tiger,it will look
good on vidio.

Just a thought :!:
If you can get it to squirt out silver sand in that quantity you could
go into Lawn renovation with your Tiger :lol:

And maybe for the aereation some realistic mines :lol: :lol:

After watching your vidio a few times I went on to the Stuart
firing blanks and then the T34/85 firing and the Jagdpanther
was best for the flash and smoke,but it only fires once.
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I believe the JP blank rounds are in the hundreds of £'s so they are a bit carefull with them and they will soon get fed up with cleaning that gurt long 88.
I love the gear change on that stuart video it sounds great as he kicks it down to take the corner, the only way at present that I can reproduce that is by editing the sound, here it is again and the dopler effect ( I think that's how you spell it ) is superb I can reproduce that using a stereo soom mic
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Tiger1 and a PIAT
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Tommy and his Piat

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Another great little vidio Phil,very depressing for Tommy at the end.
I liked the birds singing in the woods at 1/6th scale :lol:
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Phil I only wish we had your comet there, maybe i should get me one!
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Comet

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I will have to arrange with you to bring my Comet to you like you said
earlier,so you can take some period footage.
I am getting on with the weathering.looks quite a bit more dustier than your
Stuart at the moment.
Will update you on the pic's.
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I have a fan....a big fan..and a plan,and a big space in the back of the berge, I will post a pic soon and details of my plan ...phil
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Re: To much smoke

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If this is for an engine smoker, careful how you route the airflow :shock:

I've tried to use a coupled pair of 40mm server fans on an old Armortek smoker box and the air pressure at full chat blew the raw baby oil out of the exhaust pipe :oops:

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Never even considered that Adrian, I think the fan I have is 120mm!
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Just a hint: Thomas Benedini told me of a new pressure smoker (coming soon?) and sent me a video. Much and sudden forceful smoke (surely fitting a muzzle smoke), but might be reducable to engine exhaust smoke, so I mean. Unfortunately I found no official video in the web to set a link.

I for myself don't like exhaust smoke. Wrong color, wrong strength, wrong timing, much smearing :twisted: . Muzzle smoke may be OK, when coming out suddenly and powerful.

Here my own M 48 (I was a tank driver) firing its 90 mm gun at night. To the left you can see the way of the tracer:

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I new bringing this old topic up would unveil something in the pipeline ,I must confess Gerhard I had heard of a new device....I can't wait to see it in action.
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Gerhard, I note that each of your tanks has a ladder beside it to allow the turret crew to mount the vehicle in gentlemanly style. No such luxuries for the British Army. Fortunately, the designer of Chieftain provided bollards at the front to step on and a guard for the lights which you could grab. Of course, neither were of the slightest use on the ranges, where you had to mount the vehicle from behind the gun trunnions for safety reasons. That required an undignified mountaineering expedition via the
back decks, covering yourself in a helpful layer of diesel and oil.

Mind you, the turret of those American tanks was so high, you needed oxygen.

Nice photo.

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Those M48s were quite high, just got in and viewed the pics...nice photos in the dark, it all seemed so much louder at night. Lulworth ranges firing Chally 2's at night was such a buzz so long as you hadn't spent all day on the concrete apron with fault after fault, unless you have heard that gun up close you can't appreciate just how loud it is.
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Stephen White wrote:Fortunately, the designer of Chieftain provided bollards at the front to step on and a guard for the lights which you could grab. Of course, neither were of the slightest use on the ranges, where you had to mount the vehicle from behind the gun trunnions for safety reasons.
The first unit I was attached to as REME swapped the Chieftain for Challenger 1 before the first range package I attended, so I cannot quote on Chieftain. Chally 1 had bollards on the back, used to alert the crew someone was there wishing to climb on board.
Then once permission had been given, easy climb on to the back decks using the rear sprocket and track, even though at times taking toolbox, test eqpt and a few folders, then up onto the turret behind the commanders hatch. Tank crew did the climb maybe twice a day at most, I was doing it multiple times per day on ranges. It was easy when you knew how.
If I recall corrrectly, my best time was under 5 minutes from the extreme end of the range to the tower "repairing" a tank on the way. A young Troop Leader had reported his Thermal Imaging system as not working and was ranting on the squadron net at the REME for being useless. His tank had only left us shortly before after having a fault on the power pack fixed.
Less than 5 minutes later, I reported to the Sqn Ldr in the Tower that the tank was "fixed". He commented that it was a very fast repair and asked what the fault was. When I reported that all I had to do was reach in through the commanders hatch and switch on the BDCU ( Barbette Door Control Unit) so that the armoured plate in front of the TI camera opened, the Sqn Ldr was straightaway on the radio fining the young Tp Ldr two crates, one of champagne for the Officers Mess and one of beer for the Fitter Section.

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Well, my pic may be from 1968.

We all were conscripts (?) for 18 months, and conscripts had to be respected! Therefore we got a ladder to climb our tanks in dignity!

No, absolutely not! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Our tanks were armed only after having achieved the firing position. It was not very harmless to enter a -for ourselves- rather unknown tank with the heavy ammunition. Only therefore we got this ladder for the first and the last time in my 18 months! Some weeks later we were able to climb out tanks in a few seconds.

It was a very curious situation! Our whole (fighting, not training) company hat only 7 souls permanent stuff, all others were conscripts. The M 48 tanks were absolutely new for ALL of us guys, including our 7 troupers! They previously had M 47, from which there remained 2 for initial driving school, before learning to drive the M 48, with instructor only in the turret, without possibilities to interfere.

Therefore we all made "learning by doing" with the M 48 A 2. We consulted the supplied manual (only available in english; I have mine till today!) and tried to learn how to start the engine, to adjust and fire the gun (for the first time in the barracks, of course, with training ammunition) and so on. It was a very interesting period! Then the first life shot was fired at dawn (!) from outside the tank (behind, hunkered down) with a long rope! The last shots then were fired at deep night.
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