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Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:42 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Brian Ostlind wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:55 pm
PS there is a good chance they give you the screws for those outer hex nuts and they aren’t in the drawing.
Also don’t forget to chamfer the sprocket teeth.
Hi Brian
I have gone through instructions there is a bag of 64 M2x5x6 which is perfect for the outer sprocket ring.
M2x5x8 will also fit so if there are enough I can use them.
Unfortunately I as need them 48 of them to bolt the road wheel pairs together I don't have enough spare.
So I will buy some extra.
Many thanks for the help
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:14 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All
Sprockets done dry fitted together so can be taken apart for paint.
I think fitting the nuts bolts to the front looks far better than the glue in one's, not that you will see nuts at the back of the Sprockets..
Now to clear my purpose built bench to start the hull
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:44 pm
by Didier Molard
Hello.
Nice build, i'd like to have spare time to work on mine too..
For (true) position/ orientation , the nuts were tightenend from the outside, on both sides of the sprocket (castle nuts).
(picture picked on SVSM gallery Littlefield panther restoration, credit V. Yakubov)

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But as long a sit is quite hard to find "scale" nuts, able to withstand the stress, install as per Armorterks book is definetly ok !
regards
Didier
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:45 pm
by Jae-seung Roe
Didier Molard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:44 pm
Hello.
Nice build, i'd like to have spare time to work on mine too..
For (true) position/ orientation , the nuts were tightenend from the outside, on both sides of the sprocket (castle nuts).
sprocket.jpg
But as long a sit is quite hard to find "scale" nuts, able to withstand the stress, install as per Armorterks book is definetly ok !
regards
Didier
Hi Didier,
Thanks for the pictures with pointing this.
So in order to make the sprocket in a correct position, could nuts be tightened from the outside like the real Panther's sprocket ?
Cheers
Jae-seung
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:52 pm
by David Battson
Hi Gary
Have you trial fitted a track link on your sprocket, I seem to recall that the track horns run close to the inside face of the sprocket rings, so you may find that the nuts on the inside will cause a problem. Regarding your original concern, the glued dummy bolts on my jagdpanther have lasted for years without a problem, so for me the armortek proposal is not a problem to worry about.
David
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:31 pm
by Gary Rafferty
David Battson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:52 pm
Hi Gary
Have you trial fitted a track link on your sprocket, I seem to recall that the track horns run close to the inside face of the sprocket rings, so you may find that the nuts on the inside will cause a problem. Regarding your original concern, the glued dummy bolts on my jagdpanther have lasted for years without a problem, so for me the armortek proposal is not a problem to worry about.
David
Hi David
You are absolutely right clearance is unfortunately to tight even if I machine down the nuts..
2 hour's I won't get back on the build front
I have ordered the loctite glue that Armortek recommends so see how it works out.
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:56 pm
by Adrian Harris
"glued dummy bolts" ?
Who are you and what have you done with the real David ?

Adrian
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:07 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All
Starting on the suspension assemblies, looks like you need to partially build them in step 9 in order to fit them in step 3.
What could possibly go wrong
Paints, thread locks, arrived so can now get on with all aspects of the build.
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:15 pm
by Vince Cutajar
Looking good Gary.
Enjoying following this and the other Panther builds.
Vince
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:35 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Vince Cutajar wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:15 pm
Looking good Gary.
Enjoying following this and the other Panther builds.
Vince
Hi Vince
Thanks for the interest and support really appreciate it.
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:45 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All
Managed to dry fit swing arms and axles all need a slight debur 3 of them need WD40 bench vice and a bit of work but nothing to bad.
I need a bit of help..
Do you use red/blue loctite on the swing arm grub screws?
And I've found that alxe side where the torsion bars fit into with 2 grub screws are all facing in different directions so fitting/ tightening the screws might become a problem?
Circled the part on the manual.
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:58 pm
by graham pipe
Hi Gary,
Looks like you're making good progress.
Re. the problem you had or have with the sprocket bolts, on my JP I used the Armortek dummy stud/nuts which were glued in with permanent Loctite. To get a good key for the paint, all parts of my model were sand or glass bead blasted in my blasting cabinet and none of these dummy studs (either on sprockets or wheels)were displaced by the blasting nozzle's fierce sand stream so I don't envisage any problems with them falling out in use.
Here are a couple of pics of said sprocket. I expect you already know this but if you click on the image it enlarges to full picture size. You can follow my JP's progress in the Jagdpanther section titled "2022 new build JP".
As we say in France, bon courage mon ami!
Regards from Normandy
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:32 pm
by Gary Rafferty
graham pipe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:58 pm
Hi Gary,
Looks like you're making good progress.
Re. the problem you had or have with the sprocket bolts, on my JP I used the Armortek dummy stud/nuts which were glued in with permanent Loctite. To get a good key for the paint, all parts of my model were sand or glass bead blasted in my blasting cabinet and none of these dummy studs (either on sprockets or wheels)were displaced by the blasting nozzle's fierce sand stream so I don't envisage any problems with them falling out in use.
Here are a couple of pics of said sprocket. I expect you already know this but if you click on the image it enlarges to full picture size. You can follow my JP's progress in the Jagdpanther section titled "2022 new build JP".
As we say in France, bon courage mon ami!
Regards from Normandy
Hi Graham
Those sprockets look superb, bolt details i really would like something as good as what you have.
And i will definitely check out your build.
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:10 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All
Fitting small suspension bushings,all needed deburring and 3 did not fit needed drilling out with an 8mm drill bit and sanding with some 400 grit paper.
Now on to the swing arm suspension Bushings.
Then dry fit all to the suspension carriers and hull floor.
Cheers
Gary
Re: New member panther g 1944
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:56 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Jae-seung Roe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:45 pm
Didier Molard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:44 pm
Hello.
Nice build, i'd like to have spare time to work on mine too..
For (true) position/ orientation , the nuts were tightenend from the outside, on both sides of the sprocket (castle nuts).
sprocket.jpg
But as long a sit is quite hard to find "scale" nuts, able to withstand the stress, install as per Armorterks book is definetly ok !
regards
Didier
Hi Didier,
Thanks for the pictures with pointing this.
So in order to make the sprocket in a correct position, could nuts be tightened from the outside like the real Panther's sprocket ?
Cheers
Jae-seung
Hi jae-seung
This is how tight the guide horns run to the back of the outer sprocket with the nut bolts reversed.
Cheers
Gary