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Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:55 pm
by Phil Woollard
Anyone else having to log in every visit, because I'm having to. The mid deck louver hatches, good luck sorting those out, just follow the build manual and label as you go.
I have a feeling that the L shaped hatch has the louvers arse backwards, or am I missing something. If anyone has a really good photo or diagram of the louver orientation that would be great, so please post it
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:28 pm
by Youngjae Bae
"As far as I can make out from my reference photos, all the louvers are angled toward the turret?"
Through your question, I have confirmed this fact correctly this time.
Thank you.
Youngjae
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:32 pm
by John Clarke
Hi Phil, there's serveral reversed, best picture I have at the moment, Most model kits have it wrong.
Armortek has it right though I think. Mix and match
The two pairs close to the turret are reversed. Not forgetting the triangled plate too.
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Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:14 am
by Phil Woollard
Every time I change the pages I have to log in again, it's getting a bit tiring
Louvers and their orientations examples.
now I know I'm a little daft but I have taken into consideration that the photo shows the vents from the underside.
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:48 am
by Stephen White
The covers work together to promote a flow of cooling air over the radiators. The air is drawn into the engine covers and expelled through the transmission covers by the radiator cooling fans. The louvres are therefore orientated in opposite directions between the front and back covers. Hope this helps.
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:31 am
by John Clarke
From what I have seen I thought Armortek had it right with the "L" shaped louver, follow Stephen's description. I suspect their pretty heavy and once their in some not so purist's may say "sod It, that i'll do"
It's like large scale Tetris
Nothing on Chieftain is "said" just when you think the tool boxes are correctish you see something like this.
I've seen this on a couple tanks, so it's not a one off.
No problems with page swopping at the moment.
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Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:42 pm
by Mark Heaps
Stephen White wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:14 pm
Yes they were, except that in 4RTR the front left triangle bin was painted white and was our larder. I don’t remember the interior of the lids being painted but may be wrong about that.
I also cannot remember the interior of the lids being red-oxided on any of the vehicles. When open, that would have been a rectangular red patch on a green and black background so not very tactical.
I also cannot recollect any bins on future vehicles or any of the Chiefy long bins that we demanded for the REME vehicles years after Chieftain was withdrawn being red-oxided on the inside.
Possibly the red-oxide ( and white paint on the larder bin ) were applied later in unit lines for two reasons
1) Protection against rust. Bins corroded from the inside out. The paint protection got scratched more on the inside from the contents moving about than the outside ever did.
2) Helped with locating and identifying any debris or leakage / spillage when cleaning the bins after an exercise.
As the tank crews knew which bin was the larder, whichever bin it happened to be, I can only presume that either the white paint was easier than red-oxide to wipe clean, and / or the white paint made it easier to identify the contents in low light conditions when preparing the next meal.
Mark
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:00 pm
by Mark Heaps
John Clarke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:31 am
I've seen this on a couple tanks, so it's not a one off.
Hi John,
Possibly a retro-fitted support for a cam pole.
On the front bin circled in green is a short tube angled forwards and slightly outwards which is the right size, shape and orientation for the cam poles.
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Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:45 pm
by Phil Woollard
The vents.
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:58 pm
by John Clarke
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:06 pm
by Phil Woollard
Thanks John, thats just the basic out the box vents now to the detailing, these are not easy but we'll worth the cussing as you will discover, and I'm sure you will make a wonderful job of yours
The plan is to have the Sundance engine under that lot!
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:13 pm
by John Clarke
Stephen and yourself set the bar very high. I'll do your track horns if you do my welds.
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:18 pm
by Phil Woollard
Yeah right
Now you can't clip those horns mate , for one it would take for ever, and two they would then be out of scale and that would show big time! :
Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:47 pm
by John Clarke
The original Chieftain model tracks are out of scale anyway. (shorter horns)
So what's to loose. (Outer return roller maybe
)
These are the cut horns, They don't look half bad
, No risk of damage to the return rollers, even if the tyres wear down a bit.
The newly cut Chieftain horns are still 1.5mm longer than the Armortek Centurion model horns (out of scale) and no one cared about them.
My Choice
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Re: Chieftain build by Phil Woollard.
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:55 pm
by Phil Woollard
Be interesting to see how you get on running the ol girl, should be just fine