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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:03 am
by Robert E Morey
Derek,
You stug is looking fantastic. Excellent job on the engineering and machining! I like stirring up the grey matter to. Whether using CNC or manual machines there is a lot of thinking that must be done for them to come out right. Your work is inspirational to me.

Keep us posted on your progress - you will be one of the lucky few in the world with a Stug III! How cool is that?
Bob

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:40 pm
by Dale jordan
Hi Derek .. I thought this might be of interest to you .. for your scratch built fighting compartment... Dale

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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:40 pm
by Dale jordan
How good would this look in 1/6 Dale

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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:55 pm
by Derek Attree
Hi Dale

The top picture is good.
the lower one is a bit like what I am going for but with a gun!!! :lol:

Derek

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:19 pm
by Derek Attree
So Guys
I have been doing some more work on the mantlet and the roof. Pictures below....This is the first part of the recoil tube added to mantlet and also back plate shaped,
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Easy in card.
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This gives the templates for cutting metal.
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The choice was 2mm thick alloy sheet This was a mistake :oops:
After welding I have ground things back but the plates have badly pulled out of shape.
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I have since cut the holes for hatches and I have decided to remake the roof from steel plate if I can find a supply of 2mm mild steel. :?
In the mean time I will go back to the gun and the elevation and turning mounting mechanism.
Regards

Derek

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:46 pm
by Dale jordan
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Hi Derek . When I made my new alloy deck for my Sherman which has some angles like your stugs roof . I had the parts cut to the templetes and then , I had angles brackets bent up out of 3mm x 30mm alloy plate folded down the middle to the profile angle and I then bolted it togerther with SS countersunk bolts and then filled the holes with P38 , this will give you the sharp lines and good fit for your roof that you are after ... Dale

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:17 pm
by Dale jordan
Derek You can see the countersunk bolts in the photo holding the plate togerther instead of welding . I hope this helps .. Dale

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:08 am
by Robert E Morey
Dale is 100% correct Derek, use screws instead of welding. Even using thicker plate may have still warped it. I ruined my Sherman deck by welding it and having it warp - and it is 3mm thick. Not to say you cannot straighten it out by pounding on it! But screws are plenty strong and will not warp the plates.

Bob

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:39 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Dale and Bob
That is what I planing to do however the problem with the stug
roof is the large hole for the coupler 125mm diameter that cuts
through a 4 way join in the roof and I wonder about strength in this area.
I will post a picture in the next couple of days of the roof with the holes so you can see what I mean.

Regards

Derek

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:23 am
by Adrian Harris
Looking at the position of the cupula in the models earlier in the thread, that looks to be a horrible selection of angles :shock:

How about a disk or ring of mild steel, mounted under the roof as a support, and held place with countersunk screws :?:

It could also act as the bracket between the different roof panels in that area.

Was your roof TIG welded :?:

Adrian.

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:33 pm
by Derek Attree
Hi Adrian
You are not kidding about the angles.
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This is the first roof with the holes cut.
I am going to have the coupler tube going through
the roof and then add brackets or blocks to hold it in place
I will probably make it up as I go along :lol:
That normally works for me :?
I have Dave Dibb's coupler top with the the scopes and the hatch.

Not sure what the welding was?

Derek

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:39 am
by Derek Attree
Hi Guys
I have started to do a new roof and I have added roof supports.
The following 3 pictures show the roof supports and lots of M3 screws.
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This is the first roof panel
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second section
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Mid section in place.
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Final bits in place now it all needs screwing in place like the real thing.
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I have used over scale 3mm alloy plate as suggested by Dale and the result is much better.
The angles on this baby are a real challenge and cutting the holes should be interesting with the thicker plate. I will post more photos when this is done.

Derek :?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:15 am
by Fredrik Jorgensen
I am stunned Derek!!!!!!!

Great craftmanship skills.
Wish i could work that kind of thikness at home
But i havent goth the machines nor the space for them :)


Excellent work!!!!

Freddie

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:44 am
by Jeffrey Goff
Hi Derek, I have been watching your progress on your Stug build, with fascination, superb workmanship, keep us up to date

regards
Jeff

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:44 pm
by Dale jordan
Good work .. Derek .This is the way I would have done it . By having the deck supports in , it give you a good base to work from . Derek with the hole I would scribe it out then cut each peace separately ... just stick to the lines ...Dale