2025 ARMORTEK KIT SURVEY

Over the last few years we have brought out a whole series of kits as a direct result of your feedback - kits like the Pershing, JagdPanther, Hetzer, Leopard 2A4, and more recently the Sd Kfz 7, 88mm Flak 36 and the upcoming Challenger 2.

So, in keeping with what has become and annual tradition, here is your opportunity to once again influence our future production plans.

We have added in some "guide pricing" next to the names of the models. This is a rough estimate of the price at the current rates.

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Tiger 1321 rebuild

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Well argued Stephen,

After seeing the photos of the drawings, Kent's photo and some photos I have been sent as well as couple from my own collection. I think I can safely say there is an argument to say it would protrude out to at least halfway down the flash guard.
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The blown turret of 833. A discussion could be had that the mg had been forced forward by the blast when the engineers blew the two tigers up, it is possible.

Looking at the other photos I think this looks about right. I will leave myself the option to be able to alter it if someone can produce evidence that its wrong. a removable spacer should do. 8) :D
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Thanks for the feedback, its always great to have different opinions.

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As far as I can see there are no differences between the early or late Tiger I´s as regarding to how far the MG protrudes. Here´s an early version with a small protective cap on the muzzle;

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and on the late version (possibly also with the protected cover);

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Both photos correspond well with the original drawings.

/Per

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Hi Per,

Thanks, that 2:nd photo ends the discussion.
Now we all know how far out of the mantle we shall have our Tiger 1 turret MG.

My point was always look for period photos and never trust drawings unless they are genuine WW2 ones.

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Lovely photos Per,

Well at least I found out before I made the modifications and its here to help everyone else. Thank you for everybody's input, it has been very helpful 8)

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Hi All,

Just a few more updates. I have fitted the drivers view port, and all the optics are clear and working. I fell lucky when some workmen came to work on a fiends carp pond and installed a 15mm thick perspex window, so I went into scrounge mode :shock: :lol:
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I have also finished the cupola, I have fitted perspex prisms to all the slots, unfortunately I cannot get a good photo as it is a little tight in there, so I am waiting for my mini camera to come back so I can take some photos. the shoulder cushions are all leather. now I can concentrate on making the water slide decals.
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these early cupolas are a difficult part to enhance more so than the kingtiger etc, very noticeable on top of the model as well, but you've achieved it there paul, a lot of delicate work, thanks for the post, regards simon.

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Thanks Simon, its been a bit frustrating to get it all to fit and to get the right perspex. :D

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Going well Paul, I got some polycarbonate in various sizes. No 15 mm yet though. Waiting for a small sheet to become available. The supplier is local to me. How are you cutting the Perspex. The supplier might be able to supply some cut for me. I have fitted 12mm blocks for now. You sent me a mail recently about decals. Can you send again as I lost original. I will see if I have what you need.

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Thanks John, if you are struggling for the 15 mm let me know, the guys I got mine off cut me 3 strips and I bought a bit off them in case I wanted to do more. I don't think I will need all of it, and I am sure we can work something out. :wink: They told me to cut it with a tile cutting saw with a wet blade. as you can see by the photos in my thread it more like 14mm, but it has fit all the prism blocks. Ill drop you a email later.

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Hi All,

Started to fit the decals I made, thanks to the encouragement of Mr White :wink:
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Could I add them to Phil's real or fake?

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Yup! Do some of your artistic photography and editing and load away Paul. Lovely work mate. You might need to add a crew light to that interior for effect ,

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Thanks Phil, I'll try and play around with them between shifts this weekend.

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Looking great Paul. I might have a spare crew light you might want to try.

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Looking great Paul. I might have a spare crew light you might want to try.

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