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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:49 pm
by Vince Cutajar
Yes done them.

Vince

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:26 pm
by John Heath
Dug up some photos of a 1/16 scale Tiger which shows the plugs are offset.

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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:04 am
by Phil Woollard
As promised more photos of the zimmerit process. I really want to get this oh so messy process out of the way (certainly the hull anyway) before I start on the internal details like the engine bay and that beautiful Maybach. The turret can be treated as a separate unit. One for the boss.... I have found you a tow hitch pin!

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:33 am
by Phil Woollard
Some zimmerit examples for reference, in use it sure did look rough.

Right one of the biggest trade tips ever......dip your tool in WD40 before you start the impression making process, then wipe clean and dip again for every new line, start at the top, push into the paste and create a wave of the material as you head down the section ( don't lift off) creating the divet and pulling that excess paste with you, then wipe off the surplus which should be in front/underneath of the tool as you come to the end of the plate , again all this whilst never lifting off! If you mess up simply oil/dip and go down that section again.

Basically the WD40 stops the paste sticking to the tool and therefor the paste is easer to handle, the light oil seems to have no effect on the curing/hardening of the tile cement, the paint adhesion seems just fine to.

Maybe practice on a scrap piece first. 8)

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:04 am
by Kent Wiik
Looking good Phil!

But....Late Tiger1 and no engine heather port? :?

Kind regards :D
Kent

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:17 am
by Phil Woollard
Hi Kent, I haven't fitted the heater cover, what about the starter crank access cover would that have zimmerit? You have the best AFV library photos ever! 8)

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:37 am
by mark lawson
Phil you are using reference pictures showing post war applied zimmerit, the Tiger II from Bovington is all post war with exception of the rear which is mostly original, the Saumur Tiger is completely post war parts such as the drivers vision port and the starter cover were not covered in zimmerit, as Kent says the crew heater cover on a late Tiger is essential, beneath the rear mudguards their is no zimmerit, the Tiger is coming along very well I suspect it will be completed before October at the rate you are building, the internal details and the engine will make a huge difference.

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:51 am
by Phil Woollard
I need to find or make the heater port cover, shame it's not included in the kit. Ref the French example...I think they used porridge in their post war paste! I sure hope it will be completed by October as the Chieftain will be waiting 8)

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:19 am
by John Heath
I know there were different styles of zimmerit used during the war so how do you pin down the right one.

Makes me glad Iā€™m building an early Tiger. šŸ˜

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:57 am
by mark lawson
Phil, the crew heater comes with the Tiger II kit to from Mikre stannard or if you have a 4 jaw chuck this can be turned on a lathe.
John, all Tigers had the same zimmerit pattern.

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:07 pm
by Kent Wiik
Hi Phil,

The starter cranck access cover had no zimmerit.
And FOA make the heater port cover.

http://www.fieldofarmortanks.com/6si-tt ... ter-cover/

Kind regards
Kent

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:02 pm
by Phil Dawe
Kent Wiik wrote: ā†‘
Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:07 pm
Hi Phil,

The starter crank access cover had no zimmerit.
And FOA make the heater port cover.

http://www.fieldofarmortanks.com/6si-tt ... ter-cover/

Kind regards
Kent
Thanks Kent. Heater cover ordered from FOA and hopefully winging its way to Phil Woollard! :D

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:06 pm
by David Battson
Hi Phil,
Tiger build coming together nicely. The finish on the Zim pattern looks good, but will the profile on the rear be OK when the tank is the right way up - shouldn't the overhang be at the bottom of each indent rather like a tiled roof ?
David

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:06 pm
by Phil Woollard
Hi David, I did think of that and held the tool at a neutral angle ( the guys applying the zim would have the tool at all angles) so it would look acceptable anyway up or down, the same with the front plate. You will have to wait and see when it's the right way up in the photos tomorrow. In the mean time turn your device up side down to check. 8)

Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:11 am
by Phil Woollard
Starting to take shape now.