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Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:39 pm
by Charles A Stewart
Good afternoon Gary.

Being a fellow panther owner and like you I bought some extras too. I built up my spare three road wheels out of curiosity and to try colours I may eventually use.

Taking into account of this mornings observations on your build, I took the opportunity to machine the rim of one of my road wheels. I think the result is worth it.
The middle one has been machined
The middle one has been machined
Side on view
Side on view
A real one
A real one
Hope this helps and as ever I am always open to the thoughts of the more experienced.

Cheers
Charles

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:06 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Charles A Stewart wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:39 pm
Good afternoon Gary.

Being a fellow panther owner and like you I bought some extras too. I built up my spare three road wheels out of curiosity and to try colours I may eventually use.

Taking into account of this mornings observations on your build, I took the opportunity to machine the rim of one of my road wheels. I think the result is worth it.
RW 1.jpg

RW 2.jpg

RW 3.jpg

Hope this helps and as ever I am always open to the thoughts of the more experienced.

Cheers
Charles
Hi Charles

Thanks for the support, that's exactly what I was hoping for :D
I don't have a lathe sadly so not able to machine them back.
I will see if I can find a local engineering company to machine them for me.
How's your build coming along?
And you're cheiftain is superb I would so like to get one.


Cheers
Gary

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:24 pm
by Vince Cutajar
Sorry Gary if I put my foot in it.
Not being familiar with the Panther wheels I assumed that you wanted to machine both sides. But now I see, as David has pointed out, that the side facing the horn has a flange. In this case, if you machine the other side should not create any problems.
I said this morning that I would be saying something really stupid!!

Vince

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:35 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Vince Cutajar wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:24 pm
Sorry Gary if I put my foot in it.
Not being familiar with the Panther wheels I assumed that you wanted to machine both sides. But now I see, as David has pointed out, that the side facing the horn has a flange. In this case, if you machine the other side should not create any problems.
I said this morning that I would be saying something really stupid.

Vince
Hi Vince

Please absolutely no apology needed, I massively appreciate any input as I really am struggling in some aspects building this tank and I could very easily do something very stupid and costly.
I have already made several mistakes and would really rather avoid anymore if I can help it.

Cheers
Gary

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:37 am
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All

Thought I would do something a bit different today,
Trying to replicate weld beads with milliput, and playing around with the Mr surfacer 500.
It's going to take a while on the weld beads front is there an easier way?
Are any of these beads similar to the real thing?
Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Gary

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:48 am
by Ed Groenenberg
Charles A Stewart wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:39 pm
Good afternoon Gary.

Being a fellow panther owner and like you I bought some extras too. I built up my spare three road wheels out of curiosity and to try colours I may eventually use.

Taking into account of this mornings observations on your build, I took the opportunity to machine the rim of one of my road wheels. I think the result is worth it.
RW 1.jpg

RW 2.jpg

RW 3.jpg

Hope this helps and as ever I am always open to the thoughts of the more experienced.

Cheers
Charles
Hello Charles.

How did you remove the extra materian on the rim? Using a lathe?

Thanks,
Ed

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:52 am
by Adrian Harris
Have a look here at the various welds:

https://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/pa ... borden.htm

They're much finer in real life, and the large horizontal welds are made up of horizontal beads, not a series of vertical puddles.

I don't know if there were differences between the welding processes in the various factories, or whether the REME built Panthers were welded the same as the German built ones.

Adrian.

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:59 am
by Vince Cutajar
to make life easier when I did the weld seams on my Tiger 1 I used this cheap and cheerful kitchen tool:

viewtopic.php?p=60226#p60226

I can't remember what's it called but I know it is used for cake decorations.

Vince

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:00 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Adrian Harris wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:52 am
Have a look here at the various welds:

https://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/pa ... borden.htm

They're much finer in real life, and the large horizontal welds are made up of horizontal beads, not a series of vertical puddles.

I don't know if there were differences between the welding processes in the various factories, or whether the REME built Panthers were welded the same as the German built ones.

Adrian.
Hi Adrian

Thanks very much some cracking photos on there.
I see what you mean now.

Cheers
Gary

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:19 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All

Another attempt..
Definitely more practice needed :lol:

Cheers
Gary

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:05 pm
by Malcolm.Plumb
Vince Cutajar wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:59 am
to make life easier when I did the weld seams on my Tiger 1 I used this cheap and cheerful kitchen tool:

viewtopic.php?p=60226#p60226

I can't remember what's it called but I know it is used for cake decorations.

Vince
Bought one of these to try.
Looks very handy 👍

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:09 pm
by Charles A Stewart
Hi All

In answer to Ed's enquiry, removal of material.
RW 4 (2).jpg
I did take the tyre off before going further.

Hope this helps

Charles

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:59 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi all

Crazy week work wise, made a whole lot better as I have just taken delivery of the option paks.
I decided in the end to go for all the paks.
Will go through them tomorrow.
Ordered a frsky taranis X9D and reciever, and 2 Yuasa 12v 22 amp batteries.
I already have optimate 4 chargers for my motorbikes so covered on that front.

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:36 pm
by mark lawson
This will help with weld lines

Re: New member panther g 1944

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:10 pm
by Gary Rafferty
Hi All

Gone through the all the paks thankfully looks relatively straightforward to fit. And can fit the motors when building the hull rather than afterwards.
However I hear that binding can be a problem.
Still practicing the weld beads :lol:
So I'm trying to replicate the rough cut texture on the end of the steel plates on this old swing arm.
Again more practice needed.

Cheers
Gary