Silver colored Sound Module-MG flash

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Hello!
Unfortunately, the MG flash does not work when selecting the MG sound. I have a steady light on the MG Led as soon as I just connect the cable.
Does anyone happen to know where the error could be?
Thank you very much for your help.
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Re: Silver colored Sound Module-MG flash

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Hi Michael

I am using the 2017 silver audio module and used output 4 for the MG flash.

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Hope it helps.

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Thank you Vince for your informations.

On my module, the sound is set to selection #5. After selecting it 5 times, the corresponding sound comes out of the speaker. Unfortunately, the LED has a permanent light as soon as I connect the LED to the marked connection.
Can someone tell me the pinout?

Is it possible to make changes to the Armortek sound module with the Benedini software and usb-cable?
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That output on the Amplifier module is dual purpose.

The centre connection is connected to 5 volts.
The left hand pin is pulsed low when you call for the MG sound
The right hand pin is pulsed low once when you fire the main gun sound.

If you have a TBS Mini inside then it may need to be programmed if the output doesn't respond as above.

If you have the TBS5 sound board, then note that these connections go directly to the CPU, without any buffering, so it is possible to damage them through incorrect wiring or by putting too high a load on the output. Don't ask me how I know :roll:

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Re: Silver colored Sound Module-MG flash

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Hello Adrian, thank you for your informations.

I think the TBS5 sound board is installed.

Am I correct in assuming that for the MG LED I then have to connect the cathode (-) of the LED to the middle pin and the anode (+) to the left pin?

The anode (+) for the cannon-LED must be connected on the right? Negative pole would also be in the middle here?

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For some reason, Thomas uses low side switching for his sound card outputs, so the anodes have to go to the middle pin and the cathodes to the outer pins. If you have the TBS5 manual, It is Output 6 brought to the edge of the module.

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Thank you Adrian!
I only have the Armortek manual for the amplifier module.
I will check the connections again.

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I connected the MG LED as described above. Unfortunately, the light is still only continuous.
Here is a picture of my Amplifier module.
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I've found this in the manual for the TBS5:

2. Activating the onboard outputs.

1. Hold programming button down during power up -> Led flashes twice.
2. Release button
3. Push programming button 2x (select parameter #2)
4. Wait until LED flashes 2x (confirmation of selected parameter #2)
5. Push programming button 2x (set parameter value to 2)
6. Wait until LED flashes 2x. (Confirmation of entered parameter value)
7. LED starts slow continuous double flashing indicating the parameter has been set successfully.
8. Restart the sound unit

The TBS5 is very fussy about when you press the button, how long you press it for and how quickly between presses, so it can take a few attempts. If it doesn't understand what you have done, it goes straight to #7 until you power it down.

Setting parameter #2 to a value of 2 enables the onboard outputs. In this mode, these two outputs flash for sounds 1 and 2, which are the main gun and MG in Thomas's standard set up for the TBS5.

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Hello Adrian!
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately I don't have a manual for the TBS5.
I will try it and report afterwards.

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Hello!
I'm still working on the Panther's electronics.
Is it possible to change the sound on the old sound modules?
E.g. with the TBS Flash software from Benedini.
Or is it possible to replace the TBS5 with a TBS Mini on the Armortek sound modul?

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You cannot change the sounds on the TBS5 as they are hard coded into the chips.

You used to be able to return the TBS5 to Thomas for him to replace the chips with the new sounds but I don't think he offers this service any more.

When they switched from TBS5 to TBS MIni, Armortek produced a daughterboard to allow for the change:

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If you don't mind spending some time with the manuals, you should be able to recreate this with short male to male servo leads:

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Re: Silver colored Sound Module-MG flash

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Hello Adrian!
Thank you very much for your fast reply and help.
Which generation of sound module is that in your picture?
That would be exactly my idea of ​​installing the TBS Mini in my Armortek box.
Did Armortek provide some kind of adapter board for this?

Unfortunately, Thomas no longer offers this service.

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That's the first generation Silver Box Amplifier Module, with the Armortek daughter board fitted in place of the TBS5.

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