Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Oliver Brüninghaus
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Not an easy task but it will be perfect as always!
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I hope so Oliver
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Off we go there's no turning back back now
Off we go there's no turning back back now
Reference photo
Reference photo
This is well stuck in
This is well stuck in
Some work needed here
Some work needed here
A few casting numbers always helps
A few casting numbers always helps
Reproducing the tooling marks and the sand casting texture
Reproducing the tooling marks and the sand casting texture
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The grey primer shows up any imperfections
The grey primer shows up any imperfections
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Building up the texture, stippling this time
Building up the texture, stippling this time
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The turret vent must go
The turret vent must go
The new position of the search light power cable outlet
The new position of the search light power cable outlet
I'm happy with it so far
I'm happy with it so far
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Smore done on this damp early winters day
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Thank you Stephen
Thank you Stephen
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Reference photo for the ammunition hatch work
Reference photo for the ammunition hatch work
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This will be a perfect hole circle because...
This will be a perfect hole circle because...
.....I'm using the hole circle feature on the dro
.....I'm using the hole circle feature on the dro
Milling the small parts
Milling the small parts
The chunky hinge detail now made and fitted to the ammunition hatch
The chunky hinge detail now made and fitted to the ammunition hatch
The base nearly done
The base nearly done
Turning up the fittings for the search light junction box
Turning up the fittings for the search light junction box
Extension piece for the ammunition hatch
Extension piece for the ammunition hatch
Just need to ad the cable for the search light but not yet
Just need to ad the cable for the search light but not yet
Done for now until I get the milliput out again
Done for now until I get the milliput out again
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

Post by Phil Dawe »

Lovely stuff Phil. Huge thanks to Centurion expert Stephen White and the archive staff at Bovington TM for keeping us supplied with detailing info. :D
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Lots done on the machines.
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Always printing something
Always printing something
I've printed a reduced version of the side lights which looks the part for these electrical outlet pieces
I've printed a reduced version of the side lights which looks the part for these electrical outlet pieces
The scope mount aperture needs milling out to get that recessed look
The scope mount aperture needs milling out to get that recessed look
The turret is a bit big for the mill table but it copes very well
The turret is a bit big for the mill table but it copes very well
The nr side antenna mount blank, not used but worth the addition to create detail interest
The nr side antenna mount blank, not used but worth the addition to create detail interest
Filling and blending and weld beads to get the look
Filling and blending and weld beads to get the look
Following the lines rather than the numbers
Following the lines rather than the numbers
That's a 28 mm hole made using a 12 mm end mill without a rotary table
That's a 28 mm hole made using a 12 mm end mill without a rotary table
If I can I will use off cuts so nothing is wasted
If I can I will use off cuts so nothing is wasted
Cutting the antenna mounts.
Cutting the antenna mounts.
Hole circles.
Hole circles.
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Those clamp marks will add to the turret texture no doubt
Those clamp marks will add to the turret texture no doubt
Blending in is now required.
Blending in is now required.
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Nice work. Not familiar with that placement of the Larkspur series aerial bases: do you have a reference, please?
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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I can send you one of the reference photos by email Michael but it can't be published in any way due to the copyright but I will just check with the boss first .
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Thanks. Email sent.

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I was intrigued also. Couldn’t see a pic in the Wings & Wheels book that you’re using either!

Some great work going on here as usual…..regardless.
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Shame we can't post the reference photos.
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Periscope mount blank ready for turning
Periscope mount blank ready for turning
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Milling the periscope mount
Milling the periscope mount
Pivoting periscope tube mount
Pivoting periscope tube mount
A lower profile for the front angle required
A lower profile for the front angle required
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I need to profile the front cover, add a bracket to the rear, add blinkers and stiffening pieces to the lid
I need to profile the front cover, add a bracket to the rear, add blinkers and stiffening pieces to the lid
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Finished the loaders sight.
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There's a nice big gap to fill now, I couldn't get the angle on the mill so had to do it this way
There's a nice big gap to fill now, I couldn't get the angle on the mill so had to do it this way
Milliput blending stage one to the antenna bases
Milliput blending stage one to the antenna bases
I will have to apply the milliput in two stages as working the weld beads whilst the filling is soft will cause many problems
I will have to apply the milliput in two stages as working the weld beads whilst the filling is soft will cause many problems
The correct turret casting numbers for this later turret now in place. Thank you Mike.
The correct turret casting numbers for this later turret now in place. Thank you Mike.
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Ammunition hatch now finished and weld bead added
Ammunition hatch now finished and weld bead added
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The tie down loops are too big so new ones with weld detail need making and fitting
The tie down loops are too big so new ones with weld detail need making and fitting
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Lots done, and at the pointy end to.
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The new tie down loops just need the weld detail
The new tie down loops just need the weld detail
Filling required
Filling required
A mk6/1 example
A mk6/1 example
Some setting up required here
Some setting up required here
The new tie down loops made and fitted, it's amazing how something so small can make such a difference to the look.
The new tie down loops made and fitted, it's amazing how something so small can make such a difference to the look.
Following the lines again
Following the lines again
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I'm happy with the cutaway
I'm happy with the cutaway
Some milling out required here
Some milling out required here
Brass sleeve made
Brass sleeve made
Nice brass sleeve fitted
Nice brass sleeve fitted
Turning up a basic ranging gun barrel
Turning up a basic ranging gun barrel
I believe the ranging gun was .5" but what caliber was the coax?
I believe the ranging gun was .5" but what caliber was the coax?
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First stage milliput will need some rubbing down once cured
First stage milliput will need some rubbing down once cured
Although you won't see a lot of this work it will provide the correct stuffing for the canvas cover
Although you won't see a lot of this work it will provide the correct stuffing for the canvas cover
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

Post by Kevin Hunter »

Superb as always Phil.

Better men than me will tell you the co-ax was 0.30 and the ranging gun was a 0.50.

Cheers
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Cartridge:
Coax: .30-06
RG: .50 BMG. The round was the L11A1 or L11A2 'flash-puff' round.

Weapon nomenclature was:
coax: L3A3 (or if earlier than about 1960, M1919A4) Edit: for Mk.5 and beyond.
RG: L6A1 (Edit: if fitted, Mk5 and beyond)

Mike
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Re: Mr Dawe's Centurion.

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Or, if you go retro (Mark 3) the co-ax is a 7.9mm Besa.

Not sure about the ranging gun - a 20mm Polsten ?

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