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Well said John, it's correct what you say, we can't produce fan covers because, not all tanks are built in the same way and with the same measures.
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It's going to be a tight squeeze and I was going to ask about the batteries but I see you are going to use four small ones. I guess using a combination of series and parallel wiring to get the 24V and increasing capacity.

Is modelling the turret basket going to affect the turret turn, elevation and recoil mechanisms?

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Hi Vince, turret turn installed and working and well out the way of the turret basket...I hope ! We now have a running and driving Tiger I, photos to follow tomorrow in the update. 8)
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Hi Phil
It’s all looking very good, a bit of inspiration for when I get round to doing mine. I was not planning on doing a turret basket on mine but now I see how you have created enough space using 9amp batteries I may reconsider.
Ivano,
Thank you for posting the engine bay drawings, these will be very useful when I come to building and installing you engine.
Do you still have the radiators and fan housings available.
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The detailing going into this Tiger is amazing :D :D :D

It will be interesting to see how well the 9Ah batteries stand up to the rigours of moving a Tiger around, as suppliers such as PowerSonic only give the headline capacity when discharged over 20 hours. So to get 12Ah from their "12Ah" battery, the discharge rate is limited to 450mA.

To get one hour of running time, whilst draining the battery to 9 volts, the discharge rate is given as 7.25A, which only gives an effective battery capacity of 7.25Ah, or 60% of the headline value.

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Adrian I will have to do some driving trials, that will be a chore :roll:
We now have a running and driving Late Tiger 1.
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No problems with the running and the set up was faultless with the Viper all paired nicely.
No problems with the running and the set up was faultless with the Viper all paired nicely.
As usual I'm keeping it all very straight forward and user friendly.
As usual I'm keeping it all very straight forward and user friendly.
With the Spektrum and the Armortek motion pack it's all so easy to set up.
With the Spektrum and the Armortek motion pack it's all so easy to set up.
Thanks for the new read boss!
Thanks for the new read boss!
Not tidied just yet but everything in and labelled for the ease of use of the owner.
Not tidied just yet but everything in and labelled for the ease of use of the owner.
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Now the radiators and fan castings look a tad better, just need some weathering suitable for an internal piece.
Now the radiators and fan castings look a tad better, just need some weathering suitable for an internal piece.
After all that filing the rads are now square.
After all that filing the rads are now square.
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Radiators and fans are available, I don't have a warehouse, I'm not a merchant, I only produce to order, so it takes all the time necessary to make the pieces.
I also ask the friends of the forum for an opinion, I hope you will answer me. I have the possibility to build 6 more engines for Tiger1, now I have some time and I could also do the assembly on request.
It will be a 90% montage and I can also paint it. It cannot be mounted completely because the shipment would damage it. Do you think there might be interest? At the end of the year Armortek will deliver the King Tiger, even for this engine the very detailed kit that includes the "sirocco fan" could be available.
Please give me your opinion? I would very much appreciate that the owners of Armortek also expressed their opinions on the matter. Thank you very much Ivano
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fan di sirocco
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This is Ivanos superb example Vince. The recess just cut out as I dont know where the fitting will go just yet.
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> Adrian I will have to do some driving trials, that will be a chore :roll:

Will be interested to see the results, as the Sherman kits have a much narrower lower hull but also quite large sponsons, so a battery set up like that might allow more space in the hull.

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Phil
Loving this build thread - very good details and ideas. I like the battery in sponson idea as well. Very cool project.
Best regards,
Bob

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Thanks bob, more progress on the wiring, and now I feel the need to start on the Maybach. Today's tip reduce the voltage for the driving lights if you don't eventually the front bulb will melt the nice lens and the rear will also get hot and fail at some point, usually at a show. 8)
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Always weathering as I go, I will keep coming back to these areas as a break from other tasks
Always weathering as I go, I will keep coming back to these areas as a break from other tasks
The stand offs in place.
The stand offs in place.
The lights are all working and are switched using the "gear" channel on the TX.
The lights are all working and are switched using the "gear" channel on the TX.
A dirty rear end is a must for these vehicles, take a look at your cars rear end after a wet drive in the country.
A dirty rear end is a must for these vehicles, take a look at your cars rear end after a wet drive in the country.
Colourful init.
Colourful init.
The Maybach kit looks and feels good quality.
The Maybach kit looks and feels good quality.
Nice fit of parts, although I would say file a slight lead in on the tenons to avoid any snagging as they are a good tight fit.
Nice fit of parts, although I would say file a slight lead in on the tenons to avoid any snagging as they are a good tight fit.
It's beginning to take shape
It's beginning to take shape
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The Maybach.

Question for Ivano, do you have details of the fan drive "hook up" please? I need to make these drives fit. Failing that can you supply a pair of yours?
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Fiddly but rewarding work.
Fiddly but rewarding work.
The fan drive take offs are a work of art.3d printing at it's best.
The fan drive take offs are a work of art.3d printing at it's best.
Very small fixings and in scale to at 1.5 and 1mm dia threads.
Very small fixings and in scale to at 1.5 and 1mm dia threads.
The fire wall is just resting against the back of the engine, the exhausts are the same centres as the Armortek outlets, the height is not an issue as I will manufacture adjustable feet for the engine, just a couple of mm each way by the look of things.
The fire wall is just resting against the back of the engine, the exhausts are the same centres as the Armortek outlets, the height is not an issue as I will manufacture adjustable feet for the engine, just a couple of mm each way by the look of things.
Tis a beautiful thing, if an engine can be beautiful!
Tis a beautiful thing, if an engine can be beautiful!
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very interesting battery setup :-) good spot to place them as this is normally "empty space" in most builds.
cheers
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Hi Phil

You're doing a fantastic job here and so fast.... Keep up the good work and thanks for posting :D

Can you tell me where you get your Milliput Extruders from, i am just starting the long welds along the Pannier Gussets

Many thanks

Andy

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