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Re: Late Tiger 1 commission build by Phil Woollard

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Yes done them.

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Dug up some photos of a 1/16 scale Tiger which shows the plugs are offset.

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As promised more photos of the zimmerit process. I really want to get this oh so messy process out of the way (certainly the hull anyway) before I start on the internal details like the engine bay and that beautiful Maybach. The turret can be treated as a separate unit. One for the boss.... I have found you a tow hitch pin!
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The application of the simulated zimmerit paste is such a messy job. Get yourself a comfy stool, turn the radio on, turn your coms off and allow plenty of uninterrupted time to complete each section.
The application of the simulated zimmerit paste is such a messy job. Get yourself a comfy stool, turn the radio on, turn your coms off and allow plenty of uninterrupted time to complete each section.
Turning the hull plugs, these should really be included in the kit, the Tiger 1 is basically the "flagship" model of the company and in my opinion should have all these essential detail parts included.
Turning the hull plugs, these should really be included in the kit, the Tiger 1 is basically the "flagship" model of the company and in my opinion should have all these essential detail parts included.
Squashing the paste with the fittings to ensure a good fit, you can then clean up the paste when its gone off a little following the "witness marks" Now Kent do I paste the starter cover?
Squashing the paste with the fittings to ensure a good fit, you can then clean up the paste when its gone off a little following the "witness marks" Now Kent do I paste the starter cover?
I will clean up the excess zim after its gone off, you can also use your Dremel to tidy up the tool  impressions if you wish. On this side I have covered the fender hinges with paste just to add the human factor once more, the other side can stay exposed.
I will clean up the excess zim after its gone off, you can also use your Dremel to tidy up the tool impressions if you wish. On this side I have covered the fender hinges with paste just to add the human factor once more, the other side can stay exposed.
Carefully reattached the fenders whilst the paste is still soft to ensure a good close fit.
Carefully reattached the fenders whilst the paste is still soft to ensure a good close fit.
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Some zimmerit examples for reference, in use it sure did look rough.

Right one of the biggest trade tips ever......dip your tool in WD40 before you start the impression making process, then wipe clean and dip again for every new line, start at the top, push into the paste and create a wave of the material as you head down the section ( don't lift off) creating the divet and pulling that excess paste with you, then wipe off the surplus which should be in front/underneath of the tool as you come to the end of the plate , again all this whilst never lifting off! If you mess up simply oil/dip and go down that section again.

Basically the WD40 stops the paste sticking to the tool and therefor the paste is easer to handle, the light oil seems to have no effect on the curing/hardening of the tile cement, the paint adhesion seems just fine to.

Maybe practice on a scrap piece first. 8)
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When the paste is applied to thinly you will also get this effect. the side armour is about right in thickness.
When the paste is applied to thinly you will also get this effect. the side armour is about right in thickness.
How rough?
How rough?
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In the past I have added the vertical lines but now I let the tool do the work of the divisions, this looks more convincing me thinks.
In the past I have added the vertical lines but now I let the tool do the work of the divisions, this looks more convincing me thinks.
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Looking good Phil!

But....Late Tiger1 and no engine heather port? :?

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Hi Kent, I haven't fitted the heater cover, what about the starter crank access cover would that have zimmerit? You have the best AFV library photos ever! 8)
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Phil you are using reference pictures showing post war applied zimmerit, the Tiger II from Bovington is all post war with exception of the rear which is mostly original, the Saumur Tiger is completely post war parts such as the drivers vision port and the starter cover were not covered in zimmerit, as Kent says the crew heater cover on a late Tiger is essential, beneath the rear mudguards their is no zimmerit, the Tiger is coming along very well I suspect it will be completed before October at the rate you are building, the internal details and the engine will make a huge difference.
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I need to find or make the heater port cover, shame it's not included in the kit. Ref the French example...I think they used porridge in their post war paste! I sure hope it will be completed by October as the Chieftain will be waiting 8)
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As usual the bit you want to see for reference is fuzzy!
As usual the bit you want to see for reference is fuzzy!
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I know there were different styles of zimmerit used during the war so how do you pin down the right one.

Makes me glad I’m building an early Tiger. 😁

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Phil, the crew heater comes with the Tiger II kit to from Mikre stannard or if you have a 4 jaw chuck this can be turned on a lathe.
John, all Tigers had the same zimmerit pattern.
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Hi Phil,

The starter cranck access cover had no zimmerit.
And FOA make the heater port cover.

http://www.fieldofarmortanks.com/6si-tt ... ter-cover/

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Kent Wiik wrote:
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Hi Phil,

The starter crank access cover had no zimmerit.
And FOA make the heater port cover.

http://www.fieldofarmortanks.com/6si-tt ... ter-cover/

Kind regards
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Thanks Kent. Heater cover ordered from FOA and hopefully winging its way to Phil Woollard! :D

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Hi Phil,
Tiger build coming together nicely. The finish on the Zim pattern looks good, but will the profile on the rear be OK when the tank is the right way up - shouldn't the overhang be at the bottom of each indent rather like a tiled roof ?
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Hi David, I did think of that and held the tool at a neutral angle ( the guys applying the zim would have the tool at all angles) so it would look acceptable anyway up or down, the same with the front plate. You will have to wait and see when it's the right way up in the photos tomorrow. In the mean time turn your device up side down to check. 8)
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Starting to take shape now.
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I use the spinning wheel method for an good even base coat of DG. I am aware that the road wheel assemblies are mounted backwards just hanging on the axle shaft for painting.
I use the spinning wheel method for an good even base coat of DG. I am aware that the road wheel assemblies are mounted backwards just hanging on the axle shaft for painting.
The off side track completed and in place, the road wheels have now had their base coat of DG.
The off side track completed and in place, the road wheels have now had their base coat of DG.
Fenders in the prop lock position
Fenders in the prop lock position
I think I'm leaning toward the one exhaust shield look.
I think I'm leaning toward the one exhaust shield look.
The heat shield stains/marks from the exhausts stacks.
The heat shield stains/marks from the exhausts stacks.
The darker colours for the weathering need to be applied now.
The darker colours for the weathering need to be applied now.
The armour piece mounting bolts lowered. Some cleaning up of this area is now needed.
The armour piece mounting bolts lowered. Some cleaning up of this area is now needed.
Phil sent me this book to digest, great read indeed.
Phil sent me this book to digest, great read indeed.
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