Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
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Brian Ostlind
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
That looks very good Brian. What tool are you using for the zimerrit? I see you are not going to apply zim to the upper front panel.
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
Good to know as I have the same tools but never used them.
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
I agree with Vince, the zimmerit looks great. Keep pressing on!
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
Looks great!
Zimmerit was an interesting material. The Allies considered using it (and did experimentally on a few of their own tanks) but magnetic mines were not a major issue in the European Theatre, so it wasn't pursued with much vigor. Mag mines were more of a problem in the Pacific, as there were probably more Japanese willing to emplace mag mines as part of their suicidal charges.
It seems Zim was just as effective as part of a tank's camouflage as it was a protective measure against mag mine threats. Even though the Germans applied it in factories, they also sent barrels of the stuff to the field to be applied by crews onto the base paint or primer. Consequently, you find all kinds of patterns including criss-crossing, angular, and more precise horizontal and vertical patterns.
Initial instructions were to apply zim to only the hull sides and frontal glacis, and not the turret. But, orders were pretty much ignored and so, you might find it on turrets, fenders, etc., anywhere a crew thought it would be effective.
cheers... Tom
Zimmerit was an interesting material. The Allies considered using it (and did experimentally on a few of their own tanks) but magnetic mines were not a major issue in the European Theatre, so it wasn't pursued with much vigor. Mag mines were more of a problem in the Pacific, as there were probably more Japanese willing to emplace mag mines as part of their suicidal charges.
It seems Zim was just as effective as part of a tank's camouflage as it was a protective measure against mag mine threats. Even though the Germans applied it in factories, they also sent barrels of the stuff to the field to be applied by crews onto the base paint or primer. Consequently, you find all kinds of patterns including criss-crossing, angular, and more precise horizontal and vertical patterns.
Initial instructions were to apply zim to only the hull sides and frontal glacis, and not the turret. But, orders were pretty much ignored and so, you might find it on turrets, fenders, etc., anywhere a crew thought it would be effective.
cheers... Tom
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That’s interesting to hear. It makes sense they would send the barrels with the tanks since you see it chips and falls off easily. Just another over engineered aspect of German heavy armor.
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New sprocket rings installed. I gave the originals too much chamfer.
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
Great job on the zimmerit Brian. Hopefully I can get mine as good as yours.
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
You are a great Teacher Brian!! Wonderful technique.. and your tank is looking SO CHOICE!
RC in the Mornin', RC in the Evenin'!
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I agree with Vince, great zim job, Brian.
One thing I would offer is, before painting or finalizing the zim, and if you plan to install the side skirts, you might want to remove any zim from the attachment points as it's much easier to attach the skirts onto primed or bare metal.
During the war, they didn't bother applying zimmerit to the skirts, at least at the factory. Who knows what they might have done with it in the field.
I'm glad to see you have new drive sprockets. It might be a lesson for Armortek to add a note about how much to chamfer them as part of their instruction manual.
BTW, some components of the tank were cast. For example, the front right hull machine gun ball (I believe). Another example is the heavy exhaust cover on the back panel. You can use the same material you use for zimmerit to give cast components that cast look. Just a light coat, and when drying, go over it with a flat tool of some kind.
cheers... Tom
One thing I would offer is, before painting or finalizing the zim, and if you plan to install the side skirts, you might want to remove any zim from the attachment points as it's much easier to attach the skirts onto primed or bare metal.
During the war, they didn't bother applying zimmerit to the skirts, at least at the factory. Who knows what they might have done with it in the field.
I'm glad to see you have new drive sprockets. It might be a lesson for Armortek to add a note about how much to chamfer them as part of their instruction manual.
BTW, some components of the tank were cast. For example, the front right hull machine gun ball (I believe). Another example is the heavy exhaust cover on the back panel. You can use the same material you use for zimmerit to give cast components that cast look. Just a light coat, and when drying, go over it with a flat tool of some kind.
cheers... Tom
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Re: Brian's 2017 NO. 10 LATE TIGER 1 BUILD
Thank you Tom. I am working my way through the fender attachments now. I covered the holes with masking tape. The pieces with the threads for the fenders attachment are a nice tight fit. I just test fitted one fender and it is a perfect fit without removing any material.