Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Forum for discussion relating to Tiger 1, Mid, Early, Late Production and Sturmtiger
Post Reply
Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Ferrule. That was the word I was looking for.

Vince

Online
User avatar
Brian Ostlind
Posts: 1466
Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:56 am
Location: Oregon, USA
Has liked: 965 times
Been liked: 2065 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Brian Ostlind »

I would love it if you can come over to my house and help me with the cables on my Tiger :lol:

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

If you did not live so far away I would have considered it. Closest I have been to your part of the world was Seattle visiting the training facility of a famous plane manufacturer and Las Vegas picking up a plane but that was when I was much younger and long distance travel was an adventure.

Vince

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

It's nearly a week since I posted any progress. Still working on the front mudguards, track rope fixings and side skirts depending on the mood and available materials but I haven't done anything new. Also, the temperatures here are not conducive to doing anything in the workshop. At the moment it's 35 degrees and tomorrow they are saying that it might go up to 40 degrees. So in other words, progress has slowed down, like everything else here.

After that rant, I did something new today. I started on the side skirts reinforcing webs. I used 0.8mm brass sheet and cut them old school with a tin snips.
Tiger 273.JPG
These were then soft soldered to the side skirt with an even older school method. Do you remember soldering irons one heated on a flame?
Tiger 274.JPG
And the result is not that bad.
Tiger 275.JPG
Tiger 276.JPG
I have a question if you don't mind. In the last photo, the area under the side skirt shown with the arrows, does one cover it in zimm also? I have seen models with zimm and without zimm in this area.

Vince

User avatar
Robert E Morey
Posts: 2290
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:59 am
Location: Seattle, WA USA
Has liked: 115 times
Been liked: 751 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Robert E Morey »

Vince,
Those side skirts look awesome. I will do something similar to add the triangle pieces. I may use steel.

I believe the entire sides were zimmerited, even under the skirts.
Bob

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Thanks Bob for the comment and the info.

Vince

Greg Stephens
Posts: 128
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:34 pm
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 11 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Greg Stephens »

Those turned out really well Vince. I roughly copied John Grima's technique. I made a pattern from cardboard and traced them out onto brass sheet stock. Then I cut the pieces rough and slightly oversized. I flattened the bottom of all the pieces and clamped them together in a vise and gang filed them. I then shuffled them and filed them again very lightly.

I used my resistance soldering system to attach them. If I were better with it I could probably replicate welds fairly well. I was very pleased with them. One or two were not soldiered perfectly square due to my primitive work piece holding techniques, but probably won't be noticed.

I would love to have a couple of side skirts and exhaust covers made out of soft copper in order to more accurately replicate battle damage.
Attachments
Tiger I skirts 2.jpg
Tiger I skirts 3.jpg
Tiger I skirts 1.jpg

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Those look great Greg.

Vince

Simon Peck
Posts: 255
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:24 am
Has liked: 7 times
Been liked: 44 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Simon Peck »

This might help:
Attachments
2372A766-D7F9-4CCC-AABD-7EBE53FCC9A3.jpeg
2372A766-D7F9-4CCC-AABD-7EBE53FCC9A3.jpeg (57.76 KiB) Viewed 2199 times

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Thanks for that Simon.

Vince

Greg Stephens
Posts: 128
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:34 pm
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 11 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Greg Stephens »

Thanks Vince. Some of them came out better than others due to my poor ability to hold them steady. I started out soldering with a MAPP torch and finally broke down and got a resistance soldiering system. Big difference.

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Like everything else, practice makes perfect Greg. I can imagine those resistance soldering units (RSU) would make life a lot easier, but in my case I could not justify the expense for seldom using it. I am following a discussion on another forum on the possibility of making one from scratch. It only uses a low DC voltage, if I remember correctly, between 1.5V and 3V, a high current and a carbon rod as the probe. Somebody is also experimenting using a bench power supply. I'll continue following this discussion to see if it is at all possible to make one.

Vince

Greg Stephens
Posts: 128
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:34 pm
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 11 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Greg Stephens »

You definitely can. There are numerous examples on youtube. One hard expense are the electrodes. I can easily see spending several hundred a year on them. But even a homemade one would give you amazing benefits.

Here is one example I found online: http://pnr.nmra.org/1div/clinics/Lowcos ... lderer.pdf

I have literally never been able to get a regular soldering iron to work properly.This despite several college hours in electronics.

I threw the traditional soldiering iron away for a MAAP torch fairly quickly. I melted a lot of little components with it.

The control with these devices are amazing. You have a higher skill level than I do with metal, so you would get proficient faster than I would.

But you are correct, it is mostly another expensive tool on a shelf.

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Finished soldering on the sideskirts of one side. Now to clean them up and remove any surface rust in preparation to be etch primed. I also did some work on the front and rear plug of the sideskirts (CE0365). I elongated (not opened up) the fixing holes by 2mm so that the plug could be moved up and fit better with the sideskirt.
Tiger 277.JPG
Tiger 278.JPG
I did this with a 3mm slot drill in the milling machine but could very easily be done with a small round file. Now to do the same thing to the sideskirts of the other side.

Vince

Vince Cutajar
Posts: 2170
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Location: Malta
Has liked: 753 times
Been liked: 1731 times

Re: Vince's Tiger 1 late variant 2017

Post by Vince Cutajar »

Finished all the work on the sideskirts and started painting them. Turned back to the front mudguards and decided to make that "catch" thingy to keep the mudguard locked in the down position.

Tiger 279.JPG
Tiger 280.JPG
Which means I have to fabricate the actual lock. Are there any drawings for this part?

Vince

Post Reply