Mick's Panther A

Forum for discussion relating to the Panther
Post Reply
User avatar
Adrian Harris
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:46 pm
Location: Berkshire (UK)
Has liked: 1365 times
Been liked: 1564 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by Adrian Harris »

The Audio Module leads effectively split the leads from the receiver and the Motion Control Module.

So, without the Audio Module in place, the wiring would be:

Code: Select all

Receiver channel 1   ------>   Motion Control Module RC Input 3
Receiver channel 2   ------>   Motion Control Module RC Input 4
With the Audio Module in place, the wiring would be:

Code: Select all

Receiver channel 1				------>   Audio Module RC Connection 1 (RC1)
Audio Module RC Connection 3 (RC1 loopback)	------>   Motion Control Module RC Input 3
Receiver channel 2				------>   Audio Module RC Connection 4 (RC2)
Audio Module RC Connection 5 (RC2 loopback)	------>   Motion Control Module RC Input 4
You also need to connect Audio Module RC COnnection 6 (RC3) to a channel on the receiver to be able to control the sounds (engine start/stop guns etc).

Adrian.
Contact me at sales@armortekaddict.uk for details of my smoker fan control module

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian and thank you for your reply. I have understood the instructions however, I do not have the necessary connections available on either the Motion Control Module or on my Receiver, to connect as your description.
This is how my Tx and Rx controls are set up, using my Spektrum DX6 and Spektrum AR610 Receiver.
Two stick motor control, left and right, all working.
Receiver
Aux 1.... Not used
Gear..... Not used
Rudder..... Turret Turn, left/right
Elevator.... Right Motor, forward/reverse
Aileron..... Gun Elevation, up/down
Throttle....Left Motor, forward/reverse
Bind......
Available channels Aux 1 and Gear. On the Motion Control Module only number 1 Pin and number 5 Pin are free, to use.
Using the diagram for the Control Module, Controlled Side.
Audio Module, I have one connection, the Recoil is connected to Pin number 2 as per the diagram. No other connections have yet been made.
For some reason the Viper Speed Control is now showing a Blue light, as well as Red and Green, and has stopped working....Mick

User avatar
Adrian Harris
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:46 pm
Location: Berkshire (UK)
Has liked: 1365 times
Been liked: 1564 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by Adrian Harris »

So, changing the names on my original message, you should have things connected like this:

Code: Select all

Elevator					------>   Audio Module RC Connection 1 (RC1)
Audio Module RC Connection 3 (RC1 loopback)	------>   Motion Control Module RC Input 3
Throttle					------>   Audio Module RC Connection 4 (RC2)
Audio Module RC Connection 5 (RC2 loopback)	------>   Motion Control Module RC Input 4
Adrian.
Contact me at sales@armortekaddict.uk for details of my smoker fan control module

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian, for the time being I have retired injured :) ....I tried your revised information, no joy. I lost most of the controls I already had.
Not your fault, I am clueless with radios setups, climb, dive, left or right, is all I can manage.....
I will a some point succeed, have no fear, it just takes a little longer the older I become :roll: Time for the International Football, and a cup of tea.
Thanks again for your help....Mick

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Good morning, and it is a very good morning....starting at 6 o-clock I revisited the set up problems by removing all the Rc plugs and reattaching them following the diagram posted by Adrian. I decided to have the 'sounds' on the right hand stick, aka my Quad, following the audio set up procedure I now have all the 'sounds', and I have forward/reverse on the right/left hand sticks. ( I think the engine needs a decoke) :D.
Still left with a few problems, for example, the recoil/flash works on the MG sound, number 4, not on the main gun sound number 3, :roll:
I need to set the gun elevation on a toggle switch, I tried moving the elevation lead and lost the sounds, :roll:
I am unable to programme the Viper speed controller which is connected to the rudder on the Rx.
I am however well pleased to hear the sound system....further advice reference the above would be appreciated....Mick.

User avatar
Adrian Harris
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:46 pm
Location: Berkshire (UK)
Has liked: 1365 times
Been liked: 1564 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by Adrian Harris »

> the recoil/flash works on the MG sound, number 4, not on the main gun sound number 3

I'm pretty sure that the TBS Mini will need to be reprogrammed to correct this, as the signal connections are all internal to the Audio Module.

Adrian.
Contact me at sales@armortekaddict.uk for details of my smoker fan control module

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian and thank you for your reply.....I'm not having much luck, I will contact Armortek on Monday. I should be able to programme the Gun Elevation to work on a switch, not so sure about the 'Viper' and why it stopped working. :? Thanks again....I am now going into my workshop/bedroom to listen to the 'Maybach'.......All other advice gratefully received...... Mick

User avatar
Adrian Harris
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:46 pm
Location: Berkshire (UK)
Has liked: 1365 times
Been liked: 1564 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by Adrian Harris »

> For some reason the Viper Speed Control is now showing a Blue light, as well as Red and Green, and has stopped working

The blue LED indicates it is in "LiPo" mode, which just means it will stop controlling the motor if it thinks the battery voltage is too low, as LiPO batteries can be permanently damaged if you run them down too far.

The instructions in the manual aren't very clear.

http://www.mtroniks.net/download.asp?ResourceID=2156

It looks like the method to reset it is to switch the power on whilst you are holding the set button down on the Viper. The blue LED should flash on and off. Release the button when the LED is off to set it for lead acid batteries or when the LED is on to set it for LiPo batteries.

To set it up for normal operation, power up the transmitter and make sure the controls are all in their neutral positions. Power up the Viper, without the button pressed, but then press it within 2 seconds, whilst the red and green LEDs are flashing. This teaches the Viper the neutral positions of the transmitter controls. The green LED should come on. Then move the transmitter control to each end of its travel and back to the neutral position, and the red LEDs should come on. This teaches the Viper the end points of your transmitter control. That should get it working again.

Adrian.
Contact me at sales@armortekaddict.uk for details of my smoker fan control module

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian, thank you for the information. I had been searching uTube for advice, nothing useful found....I will try resetting the Viper. I have saved Mtroniks Viper setup details page...thanks again....mick

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian, I have reset the battery select on the Viper....no more 'blue light' blues.
However, I am not able to setup the deadly 'Viper', I have tried it in the Rx positions of, 'Throttle', Aux, Gear, Rudder etc, no joy, refused to comply.
The Viper Speed Control is new to me so I am not sure how it should behave. It should be linked to throttle in the receiver. I tried that , did not work. I do not want to loose the controls I already have....so I will not mess further. I have to check with Armortek reference the sound card, so will mention the Viper problem, other than the above everything in the garden is rosy. :) Oh, and it's hissing down.... :roll: ....Mick

User avatar
Adrian Harris
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:46 pm
Location: Berkshire (UK)
Has liked: 1365 times
Been liked: 1564 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by Adrian Harris »

On your transmitter, there is a roller wheel next to where it says DX6 bottom right.

If you roll that wheel right one click, you should get the monitor screen up. When you operate the transmitter controls, you should see the slider bars move in time with the controls. That tells you which knob/stick/button is connected to which function.

If you want to control the turret turn, which is what I presume the Viper is for, with the left stick side-to-side, then check on the monitor that the rudder slider moves when you move that stick. If it does, then you need to connect the Viper to the Rudder port on your receiver, and go through the set-up mentioned in my last paragraph above.

Adrian.
Contact me at sales@armortekaddict.uk for details of my smoker fan control module

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian, ok, I will try your suggestion, I have already plugged the radio lead into all the receiver ports, throttle, rudder etc,. turret motor not turning...I will follow your advice....Mick

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Getting colder in the garage
Getting colder in the garage

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Hello Adrian, no luck....the sliders all move in relation to the sticks/switches. I have tested the turret motor, runs fine on a separate battery. I have run the elevation motor on the 'rudder', that's runs fine. just a thought....does the viper need to go 'through' the Motion Module. At the moment the radio lead from the Viper is connected directly into a receiver port....Mick

michael hilton
Posts: 1197
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm
Has liked: 1564 times
Been liked: 835 times

Re: Mick's Panther A

Post by michael hilton »

Rear of the year
Rear of the year
Good morning, should read bad morning....it's raining. I have revisited the Viper controlled turret turn. The control lead is plugged into the rudder on the receiver, left stick, left/right movement. The sliders move on the Tx display. I have set the Viper ( downloaded the Mtroniks full instructions) using 'setup'. The Viper red/green light switches green to red when I move the Tx stick. The turret turn should then be set on the Tx rudder stick number 4. Turret motor not moving..... :(
Adrian, I think you are correct about the sound card I can't find information on the Benedini site to change the MG control to Main Gun control. Swapping number 3 to number 4. When I activate the MG sound it's like Blackpool Illuminations with the LEDs flashing in time to the MG..... :roll:
Thank you again for your help Adrian.... I love the Maybach engine sound....war weary :) ...Mick

Post Reply