Track and sprocket problem
- Steen Vøler
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Track and sprocket problem
Hi
I am having a hard time finding out what the problem is with the tracks on my 2003 tiger 1 build
Road wheels are 100 % aligned and sprocket has been gently alligned by rolling the track by hand so that it gets the perfect fit.
The pictures shows the tracks will not fit the sprocket teeths.
The tracks are the 2003 version put together a looooong time ago.
I am having a hard time finding out what the problem is with the tracks on my 2003 tiger 1 build
Road wheels are 100 % aligned and sprocket has been gently alligned by rolling the track by hand so that it gets the perfect fit.
The pictures shows the tracks will not fit the sprocket teeths.
The tracks are the 2003 version put together a looooong time ago.
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Steen
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Hi Steen
The 2003 issue Tiger tracks have a casting fault on them. If you look at the circular part of the track link that sits between the sprocket teeth, it has a right angled corner profile instead of being circular. You need to re profile every link with a hand file or Dremel to make them circular.
You will also find that the spring washers that hold the track pins in have a habit of coming off during running, causing the pin to come out. All the track pins now are cross drilled and split pinned.
Sorry for the bad news. It looks like you have some rework to do. There is only 200 track links and pins
Cheers
Mick
The 2003 issue Tiger tracks have a casting fault on them. If you look at the circular part of the track link that sits between the sprocket teeth, it has a right angled corner profile instead of being circular. You need to re profile every link with a hand file or Dremel to make them circular.
You will also find that the spring washers that hold the track pins in have a habit of coming off during running, causing the pin to come out. All the track pins now are cross drilled and split pinned.
Sorry for the bad news. It looks like you have some rework to do. There is only 200 track links and pins
Cheers
Mick
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Thanks Mick, I will take a look at the track tonight and identify the area you are explaining.
200 links - puhhh - I am glad that I have a dremel
200 links - puhhh - I am glad that I have a dremel
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Steen, this is the area you need to remove:
http://www.armortek.co.uk/Forum3b/viewt ... are#p50294
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http://www.armortek.co.uk/Forum3b/viewt ... are#p50294
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
thanks Adrian
Does anyone have a picture of a track link where the change has been made, just for comparison on how much to dremel the area
Does anyone have a picture of a track link where the change has been made, just for comparison on how much to dremel the area
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
This pic is from the links which were on special offer:
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Got it thanks Adrian - Weekend is coming up and no rain, so this will be enjoyed in the garden with lots of dremel work
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Wow, I didn't guess that my pic of the damaged Tiger track links in the RC-Panzer-Forum did also make it to the Armortek forum!
This information is also interesting for the guy who has these and other damaged track links at his Tiger.
By the way: at Reinholds annual meetings of models in 1/8 scale and bigger (with priority at 1/6 scale and several Armortek models to be seen) I saw some similar track link damages also at King Tigers and Panthers / Jagdpanthers. Is there a known reason for track link damages at these models too?
This information is also interesting for the guy who has these and other damaged track links at his Tiger.
By the way: at Reinholds annual meetings of models in 1/8 scale and bigger (with priority at 1/6 scale and several Armortek models to be seen) I saw some similar track link damages also at King Tigers and Panthers / Jagdpanthers. Is there a known reason for track link damages at these models too?
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
The pic I posted came from the Armortek shop 'Special Offers' page
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Hi Adrian,
sorry; I meant this pic:
I found it in the link to the RC-Panzer-Forum, posted by Sam. Of course this is not any problem! I only was astonished because the pic and my related article are about four years old.
sorry; I meant this pic:
I found it in the link to the RC-Panzer-Forum, posted by Sam. Of course this is not any problem! I only was astonished because the pic and my related article are about four years old.
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Hi there
I had the same prob. I posted in the tiger 1 section (Tiger 1 track should these be round) this may help.
I must say after filing all the track links by hand and testing them they are a lot better.
Regards Andy Quirot
I had the same prob. I posted in the tiger 1 section (Tiger 1 track should these be round) this may help.
I must say after filing all the track links by hand and testing them they are a lot better.
Regards Andy Quirot
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Hello!
About four years ago I purchased an partly built, barely ran 2003 Tiger 1. The original builder HAS did the mod to the track links. But when I received it and finished building it (paint/details) the tracks LIKED to ride up on the sprockets or miss teeth.
I had a HECK of time with'em until I was advised that, since the tracks had been put together way back in 2003 and the tank had SAT on a pallet unused for over ten years, I should check the TRACK PINS and possibly get NEW PINS.
I saw the original pins were RUSTY!! The track wasn't free flowing and sometimes they'd BIND, setting off the sprocket tooth timing.
I ordered NEW track pins, changed'em out, and have NOT had ANY PROBLEMS since then! This 'old' T1 drives GREAT! (AND the NEW pins use COTTER PINS instead of those lock washers!)
And I also lightly tapered the inside/outside tip of each tooth to help guide the tooth in which didn't hurt also. With the sprockets installed (and tracks off) I ran the sprockets while lightly holding an air sander to the rotating sprocket tips at an angle. Worked GREAT!
Mike in Kentucky
About four years ago I purchased an partly built, barely ran 2003 Tiger 1. The original builder HAS did the mod to the track links. But when I received it and finished building it (paint/details) the tracks LIKED to ride up on the sprockets or miss teeth.
I had a HECK of time with'em until I was advised that, since the tracks had been put together way back in 2003 and the tank had SAT on a pallet unused for over ten years, I should check the TRACK PINS and possibly get NEW PINS.
I saw the original pins were RUSTY!! The track wasn't free flowing and sometimes they'd BIND, setting off the sprocket tooth timing.
I ordered NEW track pins, changed'em out, and have NOT had ANY PROBLEMS since then! This 'old' T1 drives GREAT! (AND the NEW pins use COTTER PINS instead of those lock washers!)
And I also lightly tapered the inside/outside tip of each tooth to help guide the tooth in which didn't hurt also. With the sprockets installed (and tracks off) I ran the sprockets while lightly holding an air sander to the rotating sprocket tips at an angle. Worked GREAT!
Mike in Kentucky
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- Steen Vøler
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Thanks everyone
tracks are now adjusted with my dremel - test fittet and everything seems to just fine.
Here are some pictures of the work
tracks are now adjusted with my dremel - test fittet and everything seems to just fine.
Here are some pictures of the work
cheers
Steen
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Hi Steen,
I remember having to file all my track links, it was a bit of a pain but haho. I would also advise you to smooth the edges on the teeth of the drive cog. it will stop the tracks riding when it goes backwards.
Paul.
I remember having to file all my track links, it was a bit of a pain but haho. I would also advise you to smooth the edges on the teeth of the drive cog. it will stop the tracks riding when it goes backwards.
Paul.
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Re: Track and sprocket problem
Thanks Paul
will take a look at it Expect to have my first drive test this week
will take a look at it Expect to have my first drive test this week
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Steen
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