KT Make Over 008

Forum for discussion relating to the King Tiger
User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 makeover cont

Post by John Clarke »

The final out come should look a little like this I hope. With a full complment of mud guards just off the proving ground as I don't do battle damage. :)

Image

While reading "New Vanguards King Tiger" the colours of this particular tank and period, are decribed as base coat red primer, over painted with dark green and dark yellow with spots of varing colours wthin the stripes.

I particularly like the name for it, "Ambush" to simulate sunlight passing though foliage. Once sprayed with red oxide will paint the stripes by hand to get the hard edges right.

Exhaust and rear armour plates completed.

Image

Rear deck sanded down with lowered forward air intake, deck hatch clamps fitted and armoured cover made and fitted..

Image
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 cont

Post by John Clarke »

Sanded down turret, ready for base coat, adding poison gas detector mounts and commanders cupola sights. Needing to just round off the edges of loaders periscope guard.

Image
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 makeover painting

Post by John Clarke »

Have sanded down hull and turret and have painted Red Oxide, some work on the old rubbed down welds and edges needed. but I'm pleased with the surface finish. Camera flash can be a bit harsh, but its a bit dark in the garage and the weather outside recently has been a bit grim for photography.
Image
Image
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 makeover blank firer

Post by John Clarke »

Most of the red oxide is completed, so while it's harding off have fitted the blank firer. 8)
As I wrote early, I didn't want to drop it low as the norm for three reasons. First the main switch and fuse box sits just below; second it's easier to load and third I think it looks better, rarther like a mg 34 ammo can. Obviously I've had to limit the elevation and trimmed the end of the motor to stop it bonking the turrent roof plate.
The previous owner built the turret with a hinge on the turret roof plate which makes access fairly easy. :D

Image
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

Tony Thompson
Posts: 38
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:33 am
Location: Grandby, Nottinghamshire
Been liked: 4 times

Post by Tony Thompson »

Hi John

The refurbishment is coming on a treat, the blank firer looks good.. you have done a great job of cleaning it all up..

regards Tony.

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 9mm converion

Post by John Clarke »

Hi Tony

Thank's Tony, turned off a few 9mm converters.

Image

Just knocking up some Bussle vent guards, knocking being the word though a few dent won;t detract from them too much. :roll:
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 bussle guards

Post by John Clarke »

The mesh guards have been made from light brass angle, flat strip and stainless mess silver soldered together, there a few dints from finger bending but think they look the part and fill in that gap below the bussle.
Image
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

008 makeover painting

Post by John Clarke »

Well this is the worst part for me, I must say I'm rubbish at painting. :oops: but that's fun in modeling, start off with the basics and make it your own. Some things you can be good at and others you need practice so any tips would be gladly recieved.
I know that 008 was hand painted or hand finshed using it's base coat red/lead or oxide, with dark green and dark yellow/sand hard edges.
It would have been a very bright look when completed. I've decided to use Tamiya acrylics because they ar easy to get hold of and will always be too. I also have never had any OH MY GAWD experiences either, I'm not into RAL colours believing if it looks good it usually is. Several coats will be needed to prevent the red burning though.
The Ambush camo chosen has under tones of modern art, so I believe there must have been a few drafted picasso's out there during this period at the Henschel factory. those dots will either make or break the effect me thinks. :shock:
The two 1/72 models show the extreams of the camo with the top one being probably more correct with its hard edges and not fuzzed as with the bottom one. :roll: My main problem will be to get the right amount of grimey look without blurring the hard edges, so any tips please post. :?
A slighty dusty, slighty rusty, nearly just out of the show room effect :lol:

Image
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

To paint

Post by John Clarke »

As I said at the begining painting is not my thing. But I've enjoyed doing it myself. I'm not into battle damage as I'm sure that will come with use and I like to show the model as complete as possible. I not keen on dirting up either, being from an R/C boat building background being a "no no" in the competitons stakes.
Still I had to dust/dirty the KT down a bit as it turned out a bit "bright". In the recent lovely weather, the pictures show the paint work to be bright even with the light dusting it's had.
I don't know what the crew's were thinking when they designed "ambush" but they must have had a chuckle to themselves when they finished the last coat. Maybe it was a excuse to take out the KT for a thrash to dirty it up. Who knows!
I have'nt shmuged the G but I have made the center 0 on the starboard side slightly taller than the other numbers as original. All painted by brush as original except the base coat and dust. The green and sand needed three coats as the base red oxide tended to burn though the first coat as can be seen from the first picture. The dimpling effect of the coating that took so long to rub down leaves a good rolled armour effect away from the flat aluminum plate of the model.
A 1/6 Peiper came up on ebay, even though he wasn't keen on the KT, too BIG, too HEAVY and drank all his GAS but he may have stood in/on 008, so he had to be brought. Quite a bland face though but his submariners leathers are just the ticket.
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

Once out of the garage and in day light, some mistakes came to light. But thats the beauty of this type of model, it can always be improved in some way.
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

Steve Norris
Posts: 1229
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:42 am
Location: Manchester
Has liked: 8 times
Been liked: 697 times

Post by Steve Norris »

Hi John.
Your KT has turned out realy nice.
The hard edged scheem does look quite stark but when you see original wartime shots thats how it looked.
The crews must of wondered what the painters had been drinking when they collected their KT,s from the factory.
Regards
Steve

Antony Rowley
Posts: 664
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Back to Wirral home of the brave or not so brave, England
Contact:

Post by Antony Rowley »

Hi John,

I think you're totally wrong :D You've created a great KT in a superb camo scheme. The way you've toned it down is superb. You're right about battle damage too as alot of these KT's are relatively new and on the film showing them driving through Tondorf with all side skirts, tools etc perfectly intact.

Great job, well done :wink:

Thanks Antony
Nord-West KampfGruppe, 1/6th Hetzer, 1/6 Schwimmwagen, 3 x r/c 1/6th Kettenkrad, 1/6th Marder Ausf M, 1/6th Panzer II Static...the collection is growing again....

Tim Bowman
Posts: 1762
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:53 am
Location: Northern California
Been liked: 177 times
Contact:

Post by Tim Bowman »

Hi John

Very very nice!

Best regards
Tim
"So long as one isn't carrying one's head under one's arm, things aren't too bad." – Erwin Rommel

Edward Earp, Jr.
Posts: 43
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:13 pm
Location: Fredericksburg, TEXAS U.S.A.
Been liked: 1 time

Turret MG and 45 blank amm.

Post by Edward Earp, Jr. »

Hi Clark ! I am having a tough time finding the proper MG for the turret.
Where did you get yours ? Also has anyone that you know of tried using
45 blanks in their firing mech. ? Would appreciate information ? Ammo of any type is no problem here in Texas and I am wondering about the 45.
If by chance I can be of any help to you it would be a pleasure. Ed

yves mouton
Posts: 1012
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Belgium
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 603 times

cupola MG gun

Post by yves mouton »

Hello Edward,

The MG from dragon 1/6 scale are looking very good,
i orderd one for myself.
regards Yves

User avatar
John Clarke
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Location: Staffordshire
Been liked: 1809 times

Post by John Clarke »

Hi Guys
I have to admit I used two MG's to make one. The barrel is plastic from the Dragon Bobby Woll set and the breach and stock are from a metal dragon MG34 these make up a proper looking tank MG34.
As for the 45's Ed, I see no problem as long a you make the blank converter about 5mm longer than the blank round used, as you could find the end of the blank will expand out and rivet itself round the outer edge of the converter making it difficult to remove.
The 45 blank as with the 9mm has a relative clean burn, there may be some smoke but may be no flash. On the positive side their cheap and cleaner and you get to use the blank firier with out the risk of mess the shot gun blank makes to the rest of the model. What ever people say, to me the blank firier is great and unique.
For indoors, I use an electronic flash unit in the muzzel break triggered by the sound unit built from a disposable camera circuit.
Please forgive Ed, but, great name, related to the great man himself?
Oh Man, I only ride em I don't know what makes them work,
Definatley an Anti-Social type

Post Reply